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Wisconsin Tacomas and bad financial advice

Discussion in 'Mid West' started by Thatbassguy, Dec 19, 2008.

  1. Mar 3, 2024 at 5:09 PM
    Stoney Ranger

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    Touche', sir. Touche'.:rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    Wonder why? There isn't a press issue, they just bolt up.
     
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    LarryDangerfield

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    From what I have gathered the theory seems to be once you loosen the big boy axle nut that gets torqued to 173 ft pounds, do a little banging on it to get it out from the spindle and then bolt it up to the new one and re-torque that big axle nut it's enough abuse to shorten their lives (A big part of that from what I understand is people seem to over or under torque the axle nut) again this is all just things I have read over the years on the forums who knows how much truth there is
     
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    Cygnus can say more, but in my experience, once you loosen that nut the damn thing almost falls out. Just wondering if the welding process induces a twist or other problem that can cause the problems. Having just put in new NSK's I am hoping for a long happy bearing life.
     
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    Shellshock

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    Most people probably don’t get it tight or just give it the ugga duggas

    I believe if it’s under tightened you get all kinds of weird things that start to happen
     
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    OldSchlPunk

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    Yup, well played!
     
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    I'd like to know more about this, willing to bet there is a big steel shackle on the end that went thru the shield!
    The reason soft shackle's have replaced steel!

    This is the exact reason kinetic ropes have become so popular if they break they just drop they don't store energy!
     
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    That rug is going to be hard to vacuum.
     
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    OldSchlPunk

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    Warping the housing is a very real possibility that may be hard to see.
     
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    Nope. The soft shackle broke. He covers it in the video

    if you don’t have a radius on the recovery point, you can pretty easily break a soft shackle. Most recovery points have a 90 degree edge and you need to use a shackle.

    also a kinetic rope stores energy.. that’s what kinetic means. It’s like a big rubber band and you need the right size for the weight of the vehicles. Bigger isn’t better in that scenario as it won’t stretch like it should.

    Synthetic winch lines will usually just drop compared to steel cable. Totally different thing.
     
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    I would lean towards under-torquing.
    My wrench goes to 150#'s and I had a hell of a time getting it to that.
    150#'s is a lot.
    Getting the axle in and out causing reduction in the life of the ball joint sounds like overthinking hog wash to me.:blahblah:
    I must've had the axle bound at 1st because the nut got real tight shortly after the cotter pin hole.
    Couple days later the brakes were getting spongy. (rotor was pushing the pads out because nut was too loose).
    Took it back apart and got quite a few more threads out of it.
     
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    It was the soft shackle that failed.

    And, kinetic ropes are like giant rubber bands, which is why they're dangerous. Regular straps are actually safer when used properly. The issue is when people try to use them like a kinetic rope.

    Edit: looks like @Shellshock already covered it.
     
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    Yeah. Tow straps are for slow pulls, not yanking. Things go seriously wrong in a hurry trying to use them like a kinetic rope.
     
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    They have a whisky named after that fella.
     
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    Yup, he was wrong thinking that the soft shackle didn't cut because the sheath wasn't cut. Those hard edges put way too much pressure in a very small area. The rope was cut without cutting the sheath.

    Taking a 20' run on a kinetic rope is just asking for trouble.

    Listening to him repeatedly call a recovery point clevis was driving me nuts.
     
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    So. Many. Stickers.
    I bet you 200% it's not the wheel bearing so much as the axle.nut not being run in far enough/at the right torque. Use a wire brush to clean those threads off before you run the nut back on and heck, use it to clean the exposed threads off before you back. The nut off. Preparation goes a long way towards clean work. Highly recommend doing this. Especially for those of you whose wives drive CRVs and RAV4s. This will save your bacon.

    Idk. The whole auto mechanic word is.... Shit. Warranty pay is criminal. Flat rate is criminal. Every single owner is a money grabbing asshat. I like the work. Hate the management. Only bright side is three other people are quitting on Monday, and their shop Foreman who had $6 an hour taken from him and his title because they don't need that service anymore is putting in his 2 weeks. As soon as he hears back from another dealership. He's done with their crap and he's been with them for like 15 years.

    Shellshock knows all

    People who fuck up ball joints doing repairs to other components are missing the 17mm nut/bolt combo that attaches the ball join assembly at the bottom.

    Take

    That

    Off

    Life is so much easier when removing CVS and spindles and whatnot. And nothing breaks that way.

    Anywho.... Hope y'all are rocking in the free world. The discussions in here are something I look forward to everyday
     
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    The best shops seem to be the ones that are just a couple people working there
     
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    wi_taco

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    This one has these mysterious stickers on it that say "SEARS". I think that means it's an antique, that's worth something eh?

    IMG_E7251.jpg
     

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