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  1. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:19 PM
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    ...2015 4X4 SB 4.0 6cyl. 5-speed auto WITHOUT tow package. Reading conflicting reports on whether or not I can safely and mechanically tow a 3500# travel trailer. Help please. Thanks!
     
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  2. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:22 PM
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    My 2008 did not come with tow package . I added the receiver class 3 Or 4 I believe and transmission cooler and brake controller .I have 2.5” lift and Timbren SES rear bumps for towing .
     
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  3. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:24 PM
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    Oh and welcome to TW :hattip:
     
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  4. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:25 PM
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    Read the Tacoma towing bible in the towing forum!
     
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  5. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:27 PM
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    So are you saying I should not tow 3500# without adding the tow package?
     
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  6. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:28 PM
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    Correct . You planning on towing with just the ball on the bumper ? And what are you towing and how far ?
     
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  7. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:34 PM
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    The big deal in the tow package is the trans cooler you don't need and brake controller wiring which works trailer brakes.
     
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  8. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:35 PM
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    I have a what I think is a class 3 or 4 hitch and what looks to be a factory installed wire harness. I'm looking at hauling a 21' double-axle travel trailer @ 3500 #. I have not had the truck that long so still trying to figure things out.
     
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  9. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:37 PM
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    I have read it...still confusing. So , I don't need a tranny cooler?
     
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  10. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:42 PM
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    A lot better if you have one. Not a big deal to install one.
     
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  11. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:43 PM
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    Pretty sure that only comes on a tow package and can't be retro added.

    OE I mean
     
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  12. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:45 PM
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    That must have brakes on it ? You will need at least a transmission cooler and brake controller. Plus don’t forget the weight of all your other gear and keep transmission in 4th gear . Like I said read the Tacoma towing bible :thumbsup: :D
     
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    So it's possible I do have the complete tow package? I went on line to get the vehicle spec. sheet by VIN # and don't remember seeing anything but I'll look again
     
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    You don't need it if you stay in the non package limits.

    But my apologies. I read 5 speed and missed the 'auto'. Brain went to manual transmission
     
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    Now I'm more confused...non package limits?
     
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  16. Aug 4, 2018 at 5:50 PM
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    I tow a single axle 16’ camper that opens to 24’ . Weighs about 2850 dry . I have seen torque converter temps over 200 degrees briefly .
     
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    Unsure. Open the hood and look for the cooler?
     
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    ^ That with all my gear and firewood ,3 people in the truck so probably around 4000 pounds total . I would never attemp it without a transmission cooler at least .
     
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    Well gentlemen...I think "we" got my answer. I just went to toyota.com/owners/vehicle-specifications...typed in the VIN...and it shows the tow package WAS factory installed along with something called an SR5 Extra Value Package? Thanks for all your responses gentlemen...you were a great help!
     
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