Won’t start after stalling manual transmission

Do you have a 4 banger? I have almost 30k on mine and still kill it once in awhile but it always starts right back up. Touchy gas and clutch peddles.

 

You said two things that are entirely contradictory to each other.
If it won't flood because its FI, why would they take the time (and expense) to write the code to cut the fuel in the event of it becoming flooded?

Also, FI does not mean that it can't become flooded. Being flooded means that the spark plug gap is essentially soaked with liquid fuel, so the electric current that normally jumps the gap and makes a spark rather just conducts through the liquid and doesn't actually spark.

In an FI engine, the computer can't really predict if the engine is going to stall, or if you're about to press in the clutch. It therefore continues dumping in fuel while in that last cycle until after it actually registers that the engine has stopped. That overshooting of fuel floods it.

 

It takes time to do that. A few seconds. That's all it takes for excess fuel to run out of harms way.

Automotive carburetors are a bit challenging when it comes to flooding, because they usually had a little pump in them that would squirt extra fuel when you opened the throttle (this is why you used to pump the gas pedal to get such an engine running). The downside to this is that if you flooded it, then any time you would touch the throttle before it restarted (including that time when you open it wide to CLEAR the flooding), it would re-flood.

 

^^^ If you don't know what you're doing and don't care if you destroy somebody else's clutch.

 

yes. but that just allows it to crank, and it's already cranking he says.

2 1/2 yrs and 45k and i never had this happen, although one time i stalled and it turned over quite a bit longer before igniting than normal, but it started, just not as quickly as normal. sorry no other input, good luck and watching.

 

I think that's what he's actually talking about.

 

yes i see that, and i could have been more clear that i wasn't cranking as long as he was saying in the OP.

 

He didn't actually say how long he cranked it for before giving up. I bet that you cranked it for longer.

 

"It just cranks and cranks and doesn’t fire." -- OP

nothing like that ever happened to me using those terms. as long as we're being literal.

 

"Cranks and cranks". So we're talking 2 revolutions? About 3 seconds?

 

guy! it's almost Friday grab a beer or a dozen.

 

I'm not trying to be argumentative here. I'm just trying to point out that OP did NOT indicate how long he cranked it for. "Cranks and cranks" is NOT a unit of time. It can take 20-ish seconds of cranking to get going again, which probably feels like a minute and 20 seconds when you're actually doing it.

Isn't the typical "it won't start" instruction something like "stop cranking at 10 seconds and let the starter cool down for 10 minutes before trying again"?

 

i appreciate that but i'm ok without a specific unit of time and this is becoming silly.

 

cranks and cranks makes me think its not starting

 

I've had this happen to me a 2-3 times when I lazily stall the truck. It wont restart immediately and I usually just turn the key to the full off position and then try again. That usually does the trick for me.

 

Yeah, for however long he's willing to hold the key in the start position, which he didn't indicate.

 

I guess its sounds like he cranked it for enough time to know it wasnt going to start...

You arent gonna keep cranking it for a minute? most times a vehicle hasnt started you crank it a few seconds, try again, try again, try again. well damn i guess it isnt starting....

 

Why is everyone here having such a hard time getting the point?
OP DID NOT SAY HOW LONG HE CRANKED IT FOR.

 

but who cares? he said it didnt start...

 

I've had this happen once. I hopped in the truck, started her up and then realized I forgot my wallet. I hopped out to go grab it not realizing she was in gear with the ebrake on and killed her. She would not restart, cranked and cranked but the engine didn't even try to start. Right as panic was setting in I pulled the key out and tried again and it started like normal.

It's not the battery, it was cranking great. It wasn't flooded, I tried flooring the throttle and it didn't help. I've stalled it other times and was able to start right back up. I assumed it was some safety feature maybe because it was during warm up but who knows.