Wonder where BP oil in the Gulf went?

Neither is blind hypocritical blaming of the oil companies when the very demand is created by the things you use every day...... I bet you believe in global warming too.

 

So because I use a product, that makes it ok for said company to operate in an unsafe manner? And damage the environment? And yea I do believe in global warming...I'd love to hear the wise ericb's opinion on that one too, since you evidently know everything.

 

I already said I wouldn't purchase gas at BP again..that is about the most I can do on my part until an alternative fuel is released.

 

Will not work.

A local environmental service business operates their trucks using biodioesel that they make from the feed stock they collect from their customers. They get enough to run their trucks but not much else. And they cover the Tampa Bay metropolitan area. Where are the rest of us going to get the feedstock?

 

Eric is quoting the party line and has drank the Kool-Aid, his is simple ignorance to reality, I realized this when he started in with calling me out about products that we all have to buy, we don't have a choice at this point. If these products were offered that are not oil based, then I would gladly purchase them, alternatives need to be brought to market, politicians need to not be bought and sold and oil companies need to be held accountable for damage that they do. And oh yeah Eric, I do believe in global warming and you kids and grand kids will too.

 

Party line? what party line? You know how I can tell the blindly ignorant? When they ignore scientific facts and jump right to politics. This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with blind environmentalist ignorance.

 

I agree, change on such a massive scale would require a huge paradigm shift to accomplish, re-aligning an entire economy is not easy. I feel that over time, the local needs would be better served if those needs are met on a local level. Not everyone would be able to shift to alternative fuels, us Americans simply drive too much. Remember, public transit was king in the metro areas until Henry Ford came along, now we are reaping the results of having our entire lives dependent on oil, it cannot and will not last forever, you and I may live long enough to see that shift forced upon us.

 

Neither blind or angry, someone framed you with anonymous negative rep pointed at my soccer boot post calling me a stupid american. It was your post with your list that it was pointed at. If it wasn't you then my bad. FO with the dumbass shit tho.........

 

my bad too.....

 

Look, let me clarify my position for you if I may, your facts that you submit cover a 30 year record, it's a millisecond in time, core samples in ocean floors and ice sheets tell a different story, this is not the first time the Earth has warmed and it won't be the last, there is a definitive link between carbon load in the atmosphere and temperature fluctuations. Where that carbon comes from is up for debate, at this point it desn't really matter, the climate is always changing and our activities may be accelerating those changes. Since you are calling me an ignorant enviromentalist, I would counter that, IF, carbon load drives temperatures, WHICH changes ocean currents and weather patterns, don't you think it would be wise to lessen the carbon load we are pumping into the atmosphere?
See, my problem with this 'green' movement is that buying a Prius and thinking you're saving the planet is BS, every breath you draw has coal particles from places like China and India, every single American would have to stop driving gas cars to make any real impact, it's all marketing bullshit. Real change requires the entire planet to take carbon load seriously and oil companies don't want that.
Real change will take decades and fundamental shifts in the way we live and do business.

 

^^^this

 

I just can't imagine all the pollution NOT having an impact on the ozone and the environment...if it impacts our lungs and breathing quality, why wouldn't it impact the atmosphere?

 

There are natural releases of environmental hazards such as volcanoes that put a huge load of toxic matrial in the environment. Nature cleans it up.

The Gulf oil is being dissolved and/or forming tar balls which essentially encapsulate a large part of the most toxic portions of the oil.

Nature at work.

We already have some "dead zones" in the Gulf from the Mississippi River runoff as well as those caused by Red Tide. The oil will just add to thiose dead zones.

 

For every scientist that supports your theory there are those who debunk it with their own scientific facts and theories..... I am of the opposite camp as you and I stand by it.... I agree to disagree.

One thing I will say is we will be more worried about food and water sooner than we are about oil and global catastrophe due to carbon.

 

Brilliantly stated !!! Ahhhh the hell with it, everyone just keep having 5 - 20 children, and develop, develop, and develop the land yet some more !!!

 

Crappy outlook, even if we won't be here we're ruining the world if we deplete it of all the natural resources. I wouldn't care if I had to commune to work on a horse if it meant this planet looked like it did several hundred years ago.

 

I'm guessing you don't have kids