Would anyone like to see an "All wheel-drive" Tacoma option?

No problem. I changed it in my quote of your now gone post as well. I tend to lay down lots of all encompassing decrees too that, moments later, I could argue against myself.

 

how about this,

Yes 4wd helps you "get going faster" it helps with drive ability and what not. I agree it definitely doesn't help you to slow down faster, however, what about for us drivers that want to get going right now but still have the intelligence to start slowing down a little sooner? I don't really care to cater to the less experienced drivers out there.
Also, 4wd engine braking is great until you gear down too much and go into a nice 4 wheel slide without the aid of traction control because it doesn't know what's going on. 4wd engine braking is great, as well as regular braking, neither of which is good at just slowing down before hand.

and AWD option would be nice, similar to the GM system. with a selection for 2wd, auto awd/4wd, 4wd, and 4wd Lo. I live in Canada and it's like half the roads are good in 2wd the other half you can barely get down without the back end sliding out, or when you are trying to merge off your 1 foot deep snow side street onto the busy bare highway (I don't want my 4wd to be engaged at that point). I would use auto awd all the time for my day to day driving in the winter time here.

 

For those of you who say there is no need to use 4x4 on snow/ice roads are not to experienced when dealing with this IMO.There is a substantial difference in handling, cornering, stopping, excelerating, and overall traction then being in 4x2. I drive all the time on bad roads going back and forth from home to work, over two mountains of back roads where your lucky if there even plowed. I always ask myself this question when the roads are bad...would you rather crash in 4x2 or in 4x4? My answer is always 4x4

 

agreed,
How dumb would you feel if you went in the ditch on the snowy/icy road because you were too cool to use the 4wd.

 

I don't think anyone is saying that there is never a time and a place to use 4wd in the snow. If you are forging unplowed roads or dealing with a blizzard of course you should be using 4wd but for a few inches of hard packed snow? People use 4wd as a tool get themselves somewhere quicker which is simply stupid in my opinion (quick and snow is a deadly and expensive combo). And to say that people who don't use 4wd in snow are inexperienced in the snow is simply in correct. For example your on a hill and late for work, traffic is moderate and you need to make a left. Many drivers will throw it into 4wd to get into traffic "quicker" instead of waiting a extra minute and waiting until there is a larger break in traffic. Is the back wheels going to spin a little?...YES Will it take a extra second for the rear wheels to get traction?...Yes The simple answer in snow is to drive slower and be late or allow extra time to get places. In my personal and professional experience 99% of snow related accidents are related to speed and lack of safe distances from surrounding vehicles. Secondly the vast majority of them are involving a 4wd vehicle. I would never own a truck without 4wd because it does assist my driving abilities but it can never replace and be better than a persons driving ability and sensibility.

 

Why are you suggesting that everyone who uses 4x4 is trying to go faster or get somewhere faster. Why would you want to be spinning entering a traveled road? There are many times in normal conditions that accidents happen when someone pulls out onto a road and someone hits them. "But they didn't see them". I can drive in the snow in 4x2, but it is not worth the risk, because once you break traction in 4x2 you are in a great disadvantage when trying to recover than being in 4x4. Not making this into an argument but I've had plenty of experience in both 4x2 and 4x4 that IMO anytime the roads are snowy/icey put it in 4x4. It will be safer for everyone!

 

My 99' 4runner limited had a 2hi/4hi/4low/AWD t-case - i loved it.

 

All wheel drive Tacoma?
No.

 

Yup - its funny. Everyone who is dissing the 4wd use in winter is implying that the people who use 4wd use it a) to drive too fast for conditions, b) with inadequate driving experience and c) because they lack the skills, foresight and wisdom of those who aren't in 4wd.

I've never been in an accident. I drive on terrible roads all the time including lots of fast code 3 stuff for work where you can't just opt out because the roads are bad. Choosing to use 4wd occasionally in the winter is just making use of a tool/feature at my disposal to ENHANCE my safety and capabilities. Not because I want to drive like an asshole. Where I live and with the conditions I drive in, I would not consider buying a 2wd truck. 4wd is in my opinion the single most important mod/upgrade/option on a truck. Some people spend more on stereo equipment and leather seats than the 4wd components would cost.

When someone says 4wd on winter roads improves traction, it doesn't mean they are one of those retards who drives too fast and winds up in the ditch upside down with bald tires up in the air saying "fuck I don't know why that happened - I had the 4wd on..."

 

And maybe they could put a cvt in it too lol

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

I currently have a 2000 jeep grand cherokee with the 4.0 and the selec trac 4x4 system tou are talking about.

I completely agree with you...that selec trac 4x4 system is amazing, granted this is the only vehicle i have owned so i cant compare it to other 4x4 systems but it is unbelievable in the snow. It is unstoppable.

I remember having 2 huge snow storms on long island, both over 2 feet of snow. All i did was wipe the snow off the jeep and warm it up for like 5 minutes. Slip it into 4 Full time and from a dead stop it just went right threw it like it wasn't even there.

It has the 4 full time option i can use on dry pavement, 4 part time to use off road, 4 lo which ive like never used and a Neutral press down option.

I'm not sure how well the tacomas 4x4 system is in the snow, but i know you can't use it on dry pavement. It is nice knowing i can leave my jeep in 4 full time and not have to worry about switching between 4hi and 2wd driving on parts of the road that aren't covered with snow. I think it would be pretty cool if they offered an AWD or 4FT full time or something on the dial switch.

I like being able to actually shift the transer case rather than a dial, but all the newer vehicles do that now.

I know the GMC canyon has some kind of awd, but i am not sure if it is automatic or what.

We may be getting a major snow storm friday into Saturday. If we do i will try to post a video or some pics of me plowing through it.

 

I am not suggesting that everyone who uses 4wd are trying to get somewhere faster. But I resign myself to the fact that I am in the minority when it comes to my thinking of snow and 4wd.

 

Hi Johnny919

Thanks for the reply. I hope that Grand Cherokee keeps running for years for you. Those were (are) great vehicles. As others have said, I doubt we would ever see it on Tacoma's.. I also read somewhere that Toyota has said we will never see a diesel...

 

That Jeep set up sounds perfect for dealing with roads like the California ones that are tight two lane passes that go back and forth between snow and dry.

 

To answer OP's question: No.

 

Thanks, i am at about 202k miles now, still runs great. Runs the same when i bought it nearly 4 years ago.

 

There it is folks, someone actually posted that you can STOP faster with 4wd.

 

The opposite of this is just as true, the alternative is to just learn how to drive

 

If you read my post again, I was comparing being in 4x4 compared to 4x2... When being in 4x4 there is less chance of breaking traction compared to 4x2, yes you will stop faster... Of course all things being equal you will stop equally... You must be a Florida boy or just an Ass!