Wouldn’t a V8 option be nice?

If Mercedes can put at 2.5 to 6.3 options in a c-class toyota can figure out how to get a v8 in a tacoma and where it might not be everyone's cup of tea the TRD PRO should have been a V8!

 

I think they should have left the 1GRE 4.0 in the Tacoma or at least improved it. I talked for 20 mins with a Toyota Internet Sales Manager about trading in my truck. He's been doing this for 20 years, he said his first reaction when the 3.5 2RE came out was " You're going to kill the low end torque. Its a engine from a hybrid. The Aktison cycle is not good for low end torque. Then I realized how smart of it was to combine the auto cycle with the Atkison cycle."

2nd gen Tacomas are flying off the lot now, people seem to be trading in for a 4 runner or a 2nd gen Tacoma.

3.5 with a turbo would be a awesome combination. If you read Car and Driver, they always criticize Toyota for having " boring" or " fosil" powerplants. Its true...

Toyota needs to bring back what consumers want.. The whole " MPG" band wagon is just a marketing tool. The reality is they're producing mediocre engines and skating by on the whole " MPGs" trend.. I don't see how the 3rd gen can continue sales beyond 2018...

4.6 or the 1GRE 4.0 would have been better. The 3rd gen Tacoma is almost the same size as my friends 05-06 Silverado 2500HD and hes got a freaking Duramax Diesel..

Toyota got two things right. The exterior design and interior.. Looks great, but its like a blonde who can't fuck well in bed...

 

I can't seem to find the post, but I'm pretty sure someone mentioned the Tacoma V8 concept Toyota made. Came across this blog post about it. They used a 5.7L Tundra V8, 504HP.

http://mx.globedia.com/toyota-tacoma-runner-rtr

 

Would absolutely buy a V8 Access Cab with a 6 Speed Manual.

 

I'd love a Diesel option, like a Cummins that Nissan is using. As someon that put a 6BT Cummins into a Dodge Dakota there is nothing like getting 30+++ MPG on the highway rolling at 75 MPH.

 

That truck was in S2 the whole way up.

 

I think Toyota should have put a turbo v6 in the truck and kept the transmission in ECT mode all the time. The smaller displacement engine with a turbo would net better fuel economy and better drive-ability.
The 3.5L v6 can get up and scoot if you use ECT, but we shouldn't have to mess around to get the truck to do what it can.

 

Everyone is talking about a more powerful V8. I want a V8, but not for more power. I want it for smoothness, response and longevity. V6 is an inherently compromised design. I'd take an I6 too but those are gone because no one wants such a long hood.

A small V8 solves a lot of the problems nay-sayers are bringing up because it doesn't have so much power it'll require everything to be beefed up. It also wouldn't hurt fuel economy so much. Sure it'll cost more so I don't really have an answer to the "it won't be profitable for Toyota" bean counter apologizers but I will say this: Why the hell are you on the bean counter's side??

 

I would have bought the crap out of a V8 Taco if there was one.

the problem is trucks keep getting bigger but the engines in the Taco are not putting out the juice.
My dad had a 2003 tundra and I parked my 2017 Taco beside it.

EXACTLY the same size. same length, height, all of it. I also suspect my truck was heavier because it is a double cab and the Tundra was an access cab.

So the tacoma is the same size as the older Tundra but no V8.
Why wouldnt they just take the old reliable 4.7l V8 from the old Tundra and have it as an option in the Taco.

drive train could be kept the same thats already in the 2017 taco considering the 3.5l engine makes 278 horses and the old 4.7l V8 only made 245

3.5l v6 = 265lb-ft of torque
4.7l V8 = 315lb-ft of torque

not nearly enough difference to say the drive train needs upgraded.

all they needed to do was drop that engine in the Tacoma and it would decimate all mid size pickups no question.
complain about fuel economy of a V8 - buy a 4 banger

 

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I have dreamed of a small V-8 in the Tacoma or even a S/C V-6 in a regular cab.

IIRC, a few years back, The T4R had a small V-8 in it like the small Lexus SUV has today ?

 

I would love a V8, I even put a V8 in my old Ranger.

But with a small modern truck I know that a V8 is going to end up being back up in there with the firewall wrapped around it. It will have to be at least SOHC which will make it huge and tight widthwise too. My Ranger has a pretty deep engine bay and even with the most compact belt system Ford put on it a 302 is still pretty tight fore/aft. One thing I really like the looks of with the Tacoma as it sits is the engine is all out in the open and seemingly easy to get at things to fix it, my Ranger (circa 1985) is the same way but many new things are like working on a van without a removable doghouse.

My biggest qualm about getting a Tacoma so far is the powerband of the 3.5, rated 278 hp @ 6,000 rpm and 265 lb-ft @ 4,600 rpm it sounds a lot like a car engine and reading what people say about it they don't seem to contradict that much either. My Ranger started out with a car engine and it sucked to have to be in low range with the engine wound up tight to get any usable power out of the thing.

Really a V6 with nice low end torque would be just the ticket. 265lb-ft is perfectly adequate for the size of the truck, but not at 4600rpm.

 

I like the V6, works for me and plenty of room for dual betteries, switch pro, on board air, etc etc

 

I live in ECT mode. Would have loved a V8...

 

I thought Trump was going to suspend the CAFE requirements, or at least ease up on them. A V8 Tacoma would sell a ton. It would be a small V8, but would help with towing and offroading. If that hurts Tundra sales, then maybe Tundra should expand as a full size truck. Ever since the Tacoma went from a compact to a mid size, it should've had a V8 option. The Dakota had one and it's probably smaller than the current Tacoma.

http://www.npr.org/2017/08/14/54347...-key-step-to-rolling-back-auto-fuel-standards

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/11/fiv...stration-over-delayed-fuel-economy-fines.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/25/trump-administration-may-freeze-fuel-economy-standards.html

 

I think we are more likely to see a diesel option, forced induction and hybrid options before a v8. Call me crazy but thats just how the market is.

Sad but true as a v8 would be nice, it just doesnt make a ton of sense. I know hardcore enthusiasts beg for it but theres just little to no business case for it. The colorado v8 made a shitty truck into a totally different animal yet is rare as hell. A v8 cant really do much other than sound good over any other mentioned options.

Still think something like a volvo t8 would be the balls. Nearly 500 tq and 30+mpg realistically. Or are we still thinking a v8 is needed to make power?

 

Ok, V-8 would be cool, but useless in our trucks. If I wanted a v-8, I would have a full size - easy. Yota would need to beef up the spring to haul or tow more, beef up the drive-line to haul and tow more etc.... - just a get a Tundra. Personally, the Tacoma has plenty of power for my use.

 

V8?, diesel?, hybrid? Maybe

All electric, definitely (imo)

Toyota just invested in induction charging for electric vehicles, interesting.

Toyota invests in wireless car charging
Deal signed to develop WiTricity's resonance wireless charging for vehicles that requires no point of contact.

https://www.cnet.com/news/toyota-invests-in-wireless-car-charging/

 

V8 doesn't make business sense. They sell plenty of Tacos without a V8.

As far as gas mileage, it's all in how you drive it and the speeds at which you are driving.

 

I do not see what the range is on the charger, but I think it is a good idea.

IF I were to buy an electric or hybrid that could utilize this type of thing it would be a boon, nothing to remember to plug in or unplug thatis of course assuming the range is sufficient that specific parking is not restrictve.

One big obstacle I see is how do I keep the guy from next door parking in my drive for a few hours and running up my electric bill while I am at work? I would hope they can do a pairing security like a bluetooth device and allow the charge station to have the discovery mode deactivated at the unit so unknown devices are locked out but the paired vehicles link and charge with no interaction from the user once they are within range.

Hybrid would likley be adopted faster than pure electric due to range limitations alone.

The next is cost, a Tesla charge station is not cheap. I am sure it does not HAVE to cost what it does, the name increases the price considerably. IF they Toyota home charge stations cost is controlled and reasonable it could get a good adoption rate.

Not that any of this really "saves" the planet. We know that production of battery components and the bateries themselves cause harm. Electric motors have more or less instant torque, while Deisel and gas enginse require a spin up to generate the torque to move a load. That would be benificial for both towing and wheeling. I could see cabrack fittied with solar panels to charge while overland etc.

Very interesting.

 

I think just V8 power with a V8 powerband, I don't really care how they do it.

The 265lb-ft it makes isn't bad, my offroad truck was rated 280lb-ft new (30 years ago). But the 2500rpm vs 4600 rpm is a huge difference.

As far as selling plenty of tacos with a car engine true... it is my biggest hangup with buying one though.

No interest in electric...