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WRX exhaust tone

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas' started by PMK, Feb 24, 2011.

  1. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:01 PM
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  2. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM
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  3. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:10 PM
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    like someone said before, the 'boxer' engine sound isnt because it is a boxer engine, its because they have unequal length headers. When Subie owners really want power, they swap in equal length headers in which case the subie sounds like any regular 4banger. Scion tCs have aftermarket unequal length headers available which makes them sound like subies.
     
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  5. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM
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    So short pipes in overall length or short pipe after the muffler.

    While a Bugatti tone would be nice, it's ok it will never have it.

    Again I'm asking not for some huge power gain or wanna be supercar sound.

    Maybe it's just not worth doing, but it is worth asking.

    PK
     
  6. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:13 PM
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    you can do it, just keep one side headers stock, then have the otherside wrap around itself a few times, then connect them to y-pipe....bam! Unequal length headers
     
  7. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:22 PM
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    Nope.

    Engine sound is dertermined (aside from muffler, which just changes the tone) by the timing in which that piston is timed on the crankshaft. Take Harley for example. There are tonnes of V twins on the road, but only Harley has its sound.
    Some vehicles are evenly timed, others are staggered in a way to give a certain sound...
     
  8. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:25 PM
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    then how do you explain the exhaust note completely changing when a subie gets equal length headers, ceteris paribus?
     
  9. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:27 PM
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    Ive never heard of anything like that. The exhaust length doesnt affect the timming of the pistons, or fireing sequence. It may change the tone, but the sound pulles will be the same.
     
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    Another excellent example of this is Yamaha's new firing order and timing in their inline 4 cylinder liter bike. They changed the cylinder firing order, ignition, and valve timing. The displacement didn't change appreciably, nor did the cylinder configuration, or really the exhaust setup. However, it sounds like a totally different motorcycle. The cam's lift and duration has a fairly significant effect on an engine's exhaust note as well.
     
  11. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:29 PM
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    The WRX being flat should the crank journals 180° spaced (paired) or 90° (individual). I'm not sure which since I never owned or worked on a WRX.

    Guessing the 4.0 liter Tacoma is 60°, but again don't know.

    PK
     
  12. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:31 PM
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    this link:
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    does cover what Chris said about timing, however, at the end it says if you have independent headers for each cylinder run equally together into the exhaust, it will sound like a regular inline four, hence, how equal length headers will change the sound of the engine
     
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  14. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:32 PM
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    They can be whatever the manufacture wants them to be set at.
     
  15. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:35 PM
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    I agree, the exhaust timing and lift can make the tone change.

    If they are still running a similar exhaust, which is stated, if it's a four into one then I doubt the tone would change much. Probably the exhaust timinig.

    Haven't looked at the bike, but does it have some type of EXUP or function changing the exhaust effective length.

    Also, being fuel injected, it seems now they are really playing with the ECU ignition portion, the fuel injection program and getting the bikes to work very well with none of the old carb issues.

    PK
     
  16. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:36 PM
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    They dont necessarilly change the sound, nor make them sound like an I4. Infact, doing so could have adverse performance impact on the engine. In the same link, This guy give some more detail:

     
  17. Feb 24, 2011 at 1:40 PM
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    I say if you want a WRX sound, get a WRX! Here is my STi next to my wifes Tacoma.
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