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Wyoming B.S. Thread

Discussion in 'North West' started by Blackdawg, Mar 18, 2011.

  1. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:28 PM
    Blackdawg

    Blackdawg [OP] Dr. Frankenstein

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    that is cool. Can't splurge on that stuff though.

    Why, whats wrong with finding an alumium 5.3l? What advantages does the 4.8l have? Im no LS guy, obviously. But again, motor aside. The tranny and tcase are a bigger problem i think...

    And considering I have no idea what my financial state will be in 5 years..thats a hard question to ask. I really want to redo Frank's rear suspension. T100 axle, custom ADS 14'' shocks outboard the frame, box the frame..overhaul the ass basically. Still need to gusset up the front a lot too.

    Igor..in 5 years? Probably won't change much honestly once i get the front end prettied up. Id love bumper and all that yada yada..but its not realistic at all to have two rigs like that. I like where Igor is right now. I'd like to tweak the rear suspension, mainly the bumper and valving, to get it to ride a bit nicer. Even rough around town. The end goal is Igor becomes the built Expo truck. Frank more race truck. I have a mod list for Igor in mind when that day comes..doubt it'll be in 5 years though. Who knows though.
     
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    Lsx 5.3l. One of the best, and most versatile engines. It's the new 350
     
  3. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:32 PM
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    I thought the LSX was a 6.0l...

    All i know is if i did it, id want the aluminum block one to save some weight.
     
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    So gm is weird. Lsx can describe a number of engines, but I always considered it the 5.3. Technically speaking, ls1 is the 6.0. But Lsx can describe any of of the v8 truck engines. 4.8, 5.3, or 6.0. 5.3 IMHO is the ticket. But that's probably because I've owned a few, and was pleased with them. Just look for the older ones, like 06 and older. You don't want to deal with that v4 shit
    Edit: or if you get a newer engine, do yourself a favor and get efi live, and turn that shit off.
     
  5. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:42 PM
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    Blackdawg [OP] Dr. Frankenstein

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    Good to know.

    Any trannies you recomend? I do NOT want an auto. So far my choices for manuals..is NV4550 or something like that or a SM465. Of the two the NV is winning in my book but i read constantly you can't slam gears in it. Its a slower tranny. Which i don't like.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:46 PM
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  7. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:49 PM
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    Transmissions are tricky. Gm offerd an manual behind the 5.3 and 6.0, but it was a super rare option. If you want a manual, I'd go with an nv, they are way stronger, and have more aftermarket options. If you put brass syncros in it, you can slam gears, and float them too, but you may have to go with a Nv4500 at that point for the aftermarket support, because those are what came behind the Cummins for years, and there is aftermarket support for high hp and tq.
     
  8. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:53 PM
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    Too expensive and not 4wd

    Yea the nv4500 is what I meant.

    Well that may be the way to go
     
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  10. Feb 9, 2017 at 8:57 PM
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    T56 isn't a bad way to go, but they are expensive. Nv4500 should be pretty easy to find, and if you find one that was behind a Cummins, it should hold a v8 pretty easy. You may have to do the 5th gear fix, but if it's already out, why not? I had an 4500 behind the Cummins I had, and that fucker was strong once I replaced the weak factory clutch. That bitch was always ready to squeal the tires.
     
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  12. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:05 PM
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    Lol too much money. Would rather 2jz it instead and bolt it to my current tranny.

    I drove Cummings which must have had the nv4500. Throw was epic long haha

    I'll look into more. Probably have to run it. And find a tcase.

    You can get the 5.3 with an aluminum block. Not all are cast.

    Haven't looked at classes really..so not sure. Be fun to enter a race for real every once in a while. With a v8 swap I'd probably be in a class out of my driver skill. But still be fun.

    No not yet. Need to though for my led pods.
     
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    So Ben brings up a good point. Although as iirc there is aluminum block 5.3l block, the iron ones will support more hp, it's going in a Tacoma, so even in its stock form it will be a huge gain. Nelson racing engines did a YouTube series on the 5.3 and the power they can make. It's a good 3 or so videos to watch to get some great information on the engines and making power, and what to do, and what not to. The aftermarket support for these engines is insane, black bear performance did my last tune in my old 5.3, and they killed it. It'seems a little expensive, but well worth the money for a well done tune on efi live.
     
  14. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:13 PM
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    Yea they are a bit harder to find. I don't think i'd go past 400hp which is easy as hell to get and not threatening for the Al block. 400hp from a V8 will be INSANE with the tacoma.

    The NV4500 also has crazy gear ratios...1st will be so damn low. 6.34 lol almost twice as low as my current 1st gear..should go back to 4.10s haha
     
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    Long throw can be corrected with a shifter, my Cummins was a 94, with .05x.16 injectors, and a bd killer b turbo, and a dual disk ceramic clutch, and a bunch of pump tuning. That tranny never skipped a beat, granted I would be surprised if it was pushing more than 350hp and 700 tq, but it was a solid truck. I have no doubts that the tranny would hold a v8. Transfer cases wouldn't be a huge issue, Cummins came with a chair or gear transfer cases, that were manual shift.
     
  16. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:19 PM
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    Yea sounds like the way to go. Won't be super cheap but whatever.

    Yea well if i do the V8. That'll be the start of the cage and might as well 4 link the rear with a fuel cell...thus race truck.

    Yes i need to get lock nuts or pad locks.

    I'll look at the 4.8. But i think the 5.3 would be a better platform. I don't think i'd run boost with the V8
     
  17. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:25 PM
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    So if you're going to look for a trans, look for one that went behind a 94-02 Cummins, it would be your best bet. Boost is cool, and from what I've researched, about 7 psi is the magic number before you need a built motor.
     
  18. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:29 PM
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    okay so yea..i would look into haha

    But at that point Id need a custom front end diff to hold the power. Although with a V8 i could get rid of the 5.29s(Hellllooooo Igor on 35s :cool:) and go to 4.10s again which would mean i could run a 2nd gen front diff...

    Psi is relative though. All about efficency and flow rates. But 7psi is better than 0psi :D

    Good to know on the tranny. Any ideas on the tcase? has to be a lefty drop...which is another problem.
     
  19. Feb 9, 2017 at 9:39 PM
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    I have the right year to do a proper turbo build as I can get a fully fuctional standalone for less than 450.

    But for that...I'm back to the 2jz.
     
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    So while it's super windy in Wyoming right now, it's super windy AND pouring rain in Nevada. 2 trees barely missed my Grandma's house 16603131_10211159696203499_671004231484094822_n.jpg16508902_10211159696163498_7223733421943193675_n.jpg
     

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