Wyoming B.S. Thread

93-97 LCs with ABS are what you want to look for, you can tell it's the full float axle by the enormous full float hubs and lack of drum brakes (save for the emergency brake). You likely wouldn't have the same problem they are a much heavier axle, they've got thicker walls and they're not round tube, if you look at their profile they're squares just have a much flatter contact patch to distribute the load.

 

Diamond will be ease of use. You get to use the same diff and axles. So just a housing swap. But for the cost, might make more sense to upgrade the whole axle instead.

Pretty much any from Zane's era. Open or Elocker will be the difference here. You'll pay a lot more for an elocker and you'll need an ARB without it so probably a bit of a wash. Zane Im sure can give you the years more accurately than me.

Stock housing is much beefier than the tacoma one. As are all things on the LC compared to the Taco..

Most people that I know that do the swap are not OEM elockers as the open are much easier to find and cheaper. Then put in an air locker. Which you're setup to do anyways so..


Yeah some folks say fuck in and do a Diamond housing with the LC diff. The advantage here is width. A stock LC axle is 1.25'' wider per side than a stock taco axle. So you'll have a wider stance in the back with a straight axle swap. That and an OEM LC axle is offset diff, which usually isn't an issue. But worth noting. A Diamond axle will center the diff and you can get it in the stock taco axle width so you won't be wider. This will also require custom axle shafts.

You can see how it adds up.

That's not including getting the brakes setup how you want too(discs, Discs with E brake, Drums).


LC diffs might not be any cheaper if you did a custom Diamond housing so doing a Ford 9'' or even 8.8 since you don't beat the shit out of the truck would also be worth looking at as they are super easy to find and cheap. Plus super easy to dial in your own gears compared to Toyota diffs so you could set your own gears if you were interested in that.





If it were me. I'd probably do a Ford 9'' with diamond housing. Or LC depending on cost. But money doesn't grown on trees so would definitely be weighing options.





Edit: As I figured, Zane in with the deets!

 

This is a 2nd gen, but still:



LC Diff with a Detroit Locker, Diamond housing, 35 spline axles, disc brakes. Cost 4700 buck a roos

 

Those 4 pot rear brakes are like the size of the taco stock fronts haha

 

Zane/Dan - what year LC am I looking at here? To save time/hassle, I may just buy (or at least price out) a new one. At least compare it to the cost of a Diamond.

I assume the elocker is different so I need one of those too. But will it wire into my existing harness/switch (do you know?)


@Speedytech7 @drr

Obviously.

 

Lol i know. Freakin huge

Are you becoming like Ben(and me) and not reading posts? its like 6 posts up..

 

Mr money Bags thinking he can buy a new one. Them parts is long discontinued. You can buy a used housing and refresh it although pretty rarely go bad so just buy a used housing and run it. I put the rest of the info you're looking for in posts above

 

I bet you can buy it new, or parts of it. But I don't even want to know what the stealership would charge

 

Nope the front and rear axles for fzj 80s are discontinued. No new housings. The bolt on HUB ends but that's about it for actual structural parts. All of the gears and gear train pieces as well as the bearings and Axle shafts are available. There's certainly no complete rear or front ends around anymore

 

LOL, totally missed Zane's reply, thanks.

I was looking at '00 LCs, and I could get those. $1500, so not cheap.

Looks like I can get for a '97 as well... no? 1997 Toyota Land Cruiser Housing assembly, rear axle. Differential, lock, floating - 4211060452

I think what you're saying is that I'd order and then they'd tell me to get lost.

As Zane said, Mr. Moneybags. Really, it's just good to know all the options.

 

You don't want a 2000 LC rear end. Those are the same semi float trash that the taco already has at that point go full float diamond. They would absolutely tell you to get lost ordering a full rear end for an 80 series. These are vehicles that people restore regularly believe me if there were any left they'd already own 10 more of them

 

OK, so no new LC housing, even though it's not listed as discontinued.

I'm not sure I love the idea of wider wheelbase anyway given my distain of mud, so perhaps my best bet is to go Diamond. Will talk to them tomorrow.

I can ask them all these questions as well, but is it "a thing" to go full float with a Taco housing? Does it use the same axle shafts or do I end up getting something different if that's an option? What other questions should I ask them so I can get something priced out and know where I stand?

And the benefit of full float is...? I seem to recall Zane/Dan saying that they are less likely to bend b/c they are supported on both ends? I'll google this as well, obviously.

I think my preference would be to stay with the drum brakes. I've not had any real issue with them to date, so no real reason to change.

 

You might ask @Wulf some questions too. He's had the benefit of owning the worst full float axle ever imagined and probably has great insight on how to do it better.

 

Don't listen to these asshats.

The 8" is fine for what you do. Unless you're planning on upping tire size. Plus diamond will have a several month lead time probably. Worth a call, but just buy a junkyard housing and be done with it while you really research what you want to do long term.

 

It's always more fun when you know it could go full yard sale at any moment

 

I am not sure if you can make the axle full float with your diff. I mean..okay I'm sure you CAN but not sure it's worth the cost.

I can say that doing the trail gear housing will be far be the cheapest and probably the fastest. Other than finding another axle at a junk yard of what you have.

 

TG vs Diamond quality? Whatever I buy, I'd like to buy once.

Oh, and I don't recommend changing the rack in the rain. This bites.

 

That does not sound fun.

No idea honestly. Diamond is great quality. I've never seen some one use the TG one honestly. But I doubt it sucks.

 

Diamond will build you whatever the hell you want. There's someone on here with a 3g 4runner with an 8" elocker, full float, factory width, disc's w/drum in hat parking brakes.

That being said, unless Dan is bending axle shafts too, semi float is probably still fine. I haven't had a problem with my chromoly shafts yet...

 

Probably. Going to the chromoly would be smart though at least.