Your perfect snow build?

I think you'll find that if you poke around the Tire Rack site, there are winter tires in every imaginable width. Their search function for most cars defaults to the same width as your OE summer tires.

 

I poked. Didn't find any in 285.

 

silly....they only come in 305+ sizes for real winter drivers

 

Oh what was I thinking? Did you know you can also buy a full arctic trucks DIY kit at napa?

 

I did find it funny some of the snow plow drivers like running KM2 MT's.

I have had them on all spring/summer and they provide horrible lateral stability on off camber trails. We will see how they do in the snow this winter if we get any. If they drive like shit Ill sipe them and if they still drive like shit my Duracraps will go back on.

 

bent sliders on thst hilux??

 

also stock LCA's and no spindle gussets

this is why one of the artic trucks almost got them killed when it imploded. those sized tires jumping snow banks with a heavy ass expo rig = fail

lack of proper prep = fail

 

So off the tires bit. I think the op asked for other suggestions...

I already suggested some weight in the bed. Secured properly of course, mud flap removal since its inevitable in deep snow.

Of course a lift is a big help. Since he wants to rescue others a receiver shackle and snatch strap.

Maybe print some business cards with your contact info so people can bring you goodies for so kindly rescuing them!?

 

So off the tires bit. I think the op asked for other suggestions...

I already suggested some weight in the bed. Secured properly of course, mud flap removal since its inevitable in deep snow.

Of course a lift is a big help. Since he wants to rescue others a receiver shackle and snatch strap.

Maybe print some business cards with your contact info so people can bring you goodies for so kindly rescuing them!?

 

... if you don't mind that mexican 2-stroke burning down out somewhere in the deep snow 10 miles from the nearest road.

 

I understand what people trying to tell me and I am trying to explain their logic is correct but data and conclusions are wrong. Studs are not like tire.
just ask yourself if studs were made of rubber would you get the same performance?
I think people see pizza cutters with inch long studs on wrc cars and simply assume skinny is better.
Well its not
Here is WRC race where studded tires are not permitted. At 1:14 you can see their tires clearly and notice how wide they are. If you compare wight to tire sizes this guys running easily what equivalent of our 12" + tires.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFzKDlibi6g

No rubber tire will dig through any amount of ice unless you make it spin for some time. And you will not make your tires spin on Truck with traction control.
So skinny is better because you can dig through snow/ice is wrong.
Question is who is right
Arctic trucks, Professional WRC drivers or guy on interweb forum calling himself Utard.

 

I think we've moved on from this. I will admit my example is a bit lacking there. however. Those are not very wide tires on that rally car. Compare a summer rally tire to a winter rally tire. The winter is narrower...


Winter -looks fairly narrow...



summer - appears to be wider

No one is contesting the arctic truck. If offroading was the primary goal, or even 50% of the intended use then a wide tire it is.

For on highway and commuting, a narrower tire will cut through the snow to hard surface, limit the potential for the snow equivilant of hydroplaning. you can't argue that a wider tire floats better and then deny that a narrow tire will cut through the snow better...

Again, the op has already indicated the tire question has been solved. Sounds like you do a lot of winter wheeling. You must have some other suggestions to help the OP aside from tires.

 

Either tire would be more effective if it were on the ground!

 

I think you're on to something there.
Hmm, so if its better if the tire was on the ground, obviously this is proof positive that narrow tires win, since they're better at getting to the ground.

 

I do see how you're getting there, but your conclusion is wrong. The objective isn't to get through the ice, the objective is to get through the SNOW TO the ice, and have a high contact pressure against the ice.

Lets imagine that you're laying on a sheet of ice, having just broken both your femurs, so you can't get up and walk, or use your legs at all to propel you off the ice, so you're going to have to crawl across the ice with your hands.

The question is, do you flatten your hands out to increase the contact area? Or do you try to grip the ice with your finger tips to increase contact pressure?

Only for their specific conditions, which do not apply.

Who on ice/snow choose NARROW tires.

Who happens to agree with both of your examples, which do not support your statements...

 

love the snow. thanks for all the great info.

 

Best comparison yet!


Come on BlueTard TRY IT I DARE YOU!

 

nokian hakkapeliitta lt

 

Bought a set of Blizzak W965's at Costco (on Vancouver Island) for $785 mounted, and taxes included. That's a crazy good price for great winter tires in Canada. I'm hoping that the narrower tire will help a lot with hydroplaning in slush, which is in my opinion one of the most dangerous aspects of winter driving.

I do a lot of long distance driving through very remote areas in northern BC so my list is pretty lengthy, but this is what I can remember having in my winter kit.

I carry water in a 64 oz thermos so it doesn't freeze, a few MRE's and some granola bars, good first aid kit, matches, firestarter, down sleeping bags, extra fuel, shovel, chains (and spider bungies) 100' of cable, Wyeth-Scott more-power-puller (which is a come-along that would lift my truck and then some clean off the ground) http://www.wyeth-scott.com/ booster cables, road flares, hand saw for blown over trees, axe, warm socks, good boots, hat, gloves, coveralls, tarp/emergency blanket, spare wiper blade, spare headlight. My tool kit as well of course.

I am starting to feel a little paranoid.

 

I assume you have never been stuck though, right? Anyway, that's a good list if stuff you carry. I don't think you can be too careful when it comes to the cold, specialy with the temps your probably seeing.