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Your unique mod on the 1st Gens

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Desiel, Oct 14, 2010.

  1. May 13, 2020 at 5:26 PM
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    Well it is the backup light indicator.... perhaps an FU to the person tailgating me. It was all part of the plan of course.... [​IMG]

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  2. May 13, 2020 at 11:22 PM
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    I've been working on a temperature sensor kit for my differentials, just something to tinker on that I thought would be a cool mod to have. Going to make an OLED gauge to mount somewhere on the cluster to show front and rear temps and flash if they get too high.
     
  3. May 14, 2020 at 9:13 AM
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    1st Gen specific?
     
  4. May 14, 2020 at 9:59 AM
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    I always wanted to try and integrate the cluster from the column shift tacoma that has the shift indicator lights there, but that would require some custom wiring and tapping into the shift position sensor.
     
  5. May 14, 2020 at 1:24 PM
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    That would be cool. When I moved to Maryland, I had to get my rig safety inspected. They failed me because I was "missing a shifter position indication in the cluster". Took me 10 minutes of convincing the "safety inspector" that there never was that in the cluster, nothing was actually missing, and the shift position indicator was next to the shifter. That's my story.... then I found $20 dollars.
     
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  6. May 15, 2020 at 4:11 PM
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    I was thinking that it would be only for 1st gens at first but after looking into it the trucks use the same filler plugs all the way up to 2019. I don't have a solution to read the temp from any stock sensors yet. So if your truck already has a transmission temp sensor I would need to have an OBDII connection but that is not planned for the first version.
     
  7. May 15, 2020 at 8:35 PM
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    i dont believe it would be too hard. but you would need to find a cluster that had the center shift lights and then wire up the connector. and swap the tach if it was a 4 cylinder and you have a v6.
     
  8. May 15, 2020 at 9:03 PM
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    Just the crappy A/T temp that turns RED when its too late.
     
  9. May 15, 2020 at 10:30 PM
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    How would you swap the tach? I thought you had to swap the whole cluster to change it.
     
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    the stepper motor board can be swapped pretty easily. you have to take the gauge faces off and i think 3 screws.
     
  11. May 15, 2020 at 10:38 PM
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    well damn! Didn't know that.
    I ended up using the Dakota Digital SGI-100BT to fix it. Does the speedo too which is cool.
    Probably would have been cheaper to just replace it with a junkyard stepper motor, but it got the job done in the end.
     
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    whatever works, works!

    the MR2 v6 swap scene avalon tachs are put into the mr2 clusters to adjust for the signal. wouldnt surprise me if the avalon tach fits taco clusters too
     
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    If you could find lights small enough, you could potentially add them yourself. One of the issues I ran into with those indicators is they were a bit too large and long. In the cluster, there are boxes for additional lights. I bet Toyota uses the same casing for different vehicles and adds lights, gauges, etc. as needed. If you could find the lights to fit here you could do it. Of course, finding a cluster with them already in it would prob be easier. This is what it looks like to give you an idea:

    IMG_0703.jpgCover and Cluster. As you can see there are 6 wedge type bulb cut outs in the center of the cluster for potentially a P, R, N, D, 2, 1 scheme. I used the 4th and 6th position to place in some indicator lights. Mine lights were too big to fit right next to each other so I had to leave a space in between.

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    Back side of cluster, you can see the wedge cut outs in the center

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    This is how I mounted the lights. I cut small holes to in the circuit board (making sure not to break any circuit paths) to allow the wires to pass thru and provide a little clearance for the bulb stems.

    Hope that clears some stuff up.
     
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    Yea that’s the easy part. Figuring out where to wire to get the shift position signal is harder.
     
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    This might help. This is from a '03 Wiring manual. To me it looks like the shifter receives 12V from the circuit with the "GAUGE" fuse. Then the shifter outputs 12V to the respective shift positions inputs on the Engine Control Module (P R D 2 L), each fed by it's own wire. Perhaps those lines could be tapped for the power side of an LED?

    ECT - 5VZ - Shifter Signals.jpg ECT - 5VZ - Shifter Signals (2).jpg
     
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    the EWD for the trucks that had the cluster lights should point you in the right direction. typically they go through a junction block that you can add more wires too to get the signal where you want it
     
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    Yes I have the one for a 99. If you look at the attached diagram everything with a *3 is for column shift. There is a resistor pictured between the P and D indicators within the combination meter. I'm not sure why that is, maybe to make one brighter than the other?

    the ECT wire signal also comes from the A/T indicator switch, so those wires could already be near the console shifter.
    Everything seems to be at IK3, which is under the right kick panel. I just don't know if they get any closer to the combination meter or not.
     

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    Interesting. Is the 'D' indicator a different color? Like white instead of amber color filter or something like that. Maybe that would explain the resistor. Like you said, to dim it to keep it from overpowering the rest of the illumination.
     
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