1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

High angle boot kits?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by ThunderOne, Jul 18, 2015.

  1. Jul 18, 2015 at 5:59 PM
    #1
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    who was it around here that made those? Got a CV with a busted outer and the other has busted inner. Outer One with the busted boot is popping and clanking. So much for BSM and diff drop working :rolleyes:
     
  2. Jul 19, 2015 at 8:48 AM
    #2
    EastBayTaco

    EastBayTaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2015
    Member:
    #148589
    Messages:
    130
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Carlos
    Bay Area, CA
    Vehicle:
    96 Tacoma 4x4 SR5
    OME Everything! (883 coils with Dakars), Light Racing UCAs, Wheelers SS brake lines, Toytec 1" lift shackles, Magnaflow muffler, CKMA12 ARB On-Board Air Compressor, Custom 80' Sliders
    I ordered a set from SDHQ off road.. Boot kit is around 30 bucks
     
    12TRDTacoma likes this.
  3. Jul 19, 2015 at 9:35 AM
    #3
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Thanks I ended up finding it last night while searching :cool: shoulda done that first!
     
  4. Jul 19, 2015 at 9:36 AM
    #4
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Do you know how we are able to apply the TW discount?
     
  5. Jul 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM
    #5
    Dirty Pool

    Dirty Pool FLIES ON THE FRIES, KETCHUPS WATERED DOWN

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2013
    Member:
    #100471
    Messages:
    2,325
    Gender:
    Male
    59.4 Miles, 56.67° NE Of Moab
    Vehicle:
    99 XCAB V6 MT TRD
    Dirty Pool rear bumper/air tank with integrated spare CV shaft storage, DP customized TJM front bumper, 8000 lb Ramsey/Technora rope, E-locked, Extended breathers with front diff catch can, PCV catch can, SAWs with DP heim joint seals, DP custom 6 leaf rear springs/Billies, DP custom skids, 2lo, Gray wire, Cap, Bed Rug, Black steelies, 01 Center console, Map lights, Disraeli gears
    They are not high angle boots. They are simply Empi "replacement" boots. Dimensionally they are identical to OEM. If your dead set on trying them, Google "Empi Tacoma Boots". You will find them for $10-$12 with lube and both clamps. You might even be able to pick them up at a local parts house.
     
    at_olw likes this.
  6. Jul 19, 2015 at 11:13 AM
    #6
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    I thought you had to modify those?

    EDIT, just did a search like you said but I'm not finding anything that doesn't look like stock boots.
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2015
  7. Jul 19, 2015 at 2:41 PM
    #7
    Dirty Pool

    Dirty Pool FLIES ON THE FRIES, KETCHUPS WATERED DOWN

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2013
    Member:
    #100471
    Messages:
    2,325
    Gender:
    Male
    59.4 Miles, 56.67° NE Of Moab
    Vehicle:
    99 XCAB V6 MT TRD
    Dirty Pool rear bumper/air tank with integrated spare CV shaft storage, DP customized TJM front bumper, 8000 lb Ramsey/Technora rope, E-locked, Extended breathers with front diff catch can, PCV catch can, SAWs with DP heim joint seals, DP custom 6 leaf rear springs/Billies, DP custom skids, 2lo, Gray wire, Cap, Bed Rug, Black steelies, 01 Center console, Map lights, Disraeli gears
    Go back and read the 3rd sentence in my post, they are stock replacements.
    In other words the boots sold for 1st gens by SDHQ are a stock replacement aftermarket boot made by EMPI with a substantial mark up. Empi makes all kinds of stuff including boots for nearly every car and truck http://www.empius.com/
    They are nothing special.
    https://www.google.com/#q=empi+tacoma+boots&tbm=shop
     
  8. Jul 19, 2015 at 3:33 PM
    #8
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Oh... That's a bummer. I was hoping they'd be better suited for lifted applications. :/
     
  9. Jul 19, 2015 at 3:37 PM
    #9
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,671
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    Regardless of if they are EMPI boots or not, I can personally attest to these. Have been running them on my max M/T setup for quite some time and continually beating the shit out of the truck. Much better over the stockers, and now I am back on the road leak free, worry free, and very happy with them.
     
  10. Jul 19, 2015 at 3:45 PM
    #10
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    As far as mark up goes, I don't think there is much of one. Looking on Amazon, the kits Empi sells are for inner or outer only, each costing around 11-12 a piece. I guess the only downside is that the ones SDHQ sells don't have lube, but I've already picked up grease anyways.

    The only local store (that can order them) is Advance and they want $19+$26 for both one outer and one inner boot. SDHQ might be jewing us on the lube but their prices are still very competitive.

    Speaking of which (I posted this in another thread but no one seems to know), what type of grease needs to go in the inners/outers? I have moly, multipurpose and red grease. Not sure what I need to pack them with.

    Also, is there a coupon code or something on the SDHQ site to get the TW discount?
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2015
  11. Jul 19, 2015 at 4:17 PM
    #11
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,671
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    I just used some left over grease I had left from all my boot rebuilds from before. I was going through them quite a bit when it was stock, as for the inner I just used some grease that I picked up from a local parts store in my area from redline. It seemed thicker then what came out but that's alright. It's lubed and thats what matters. I just dipped them in the jar and what came out and on the assembly I called good and strapped up. As for the inner smaller diameter openings on the boots, all I did was get them snuggish with zip ties, they will still slide up and down the shaft when they need to move due to articulation when offroading, but not enough to fling out grease all over the place.
     
  12. Jul 19, 2015 at 5:01 PM
    #12
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Did you also do the BSM on the new boots or just install them as is?
     
  13. Jul 19, 2015 at 5:32 PM
    #13
    Dirty Pool

    Dirty Pool FLIES ON THE FRIES, KETCHUPS WATERED DOWN

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2013
    Member:
    #100471
    Messages:
    2,325
    Gender:
    Male
    59.4 Miles, 56.67° NE Of Moab
    Vehicle:
    99 XCAB V6 MT TRD
    Dirty Pool rear bumper/air tank with integrated spare CV shaft storage, DP customized TJM front bumper, 8000 lb Ramsey/Technora rope, E-locked, Extended breathers with front diff catch can, PCV catch can, SAWs with DP heim joint seals, DP custom 6 leaf rear springs/Billies, DP custom skids, 2lo, Gray wire, Cap, Bed Rug, Black steelies, 01 Center console, Map lights, Disraeli gears
    Your 2nd gen experiences are meaningless for 1st gen applications.
    I found them to be less durable and inferior to OEM boots.


    1st gen boots do not "slide up and down the shaft when they need to move due to articulation when offroading".

    They also do not come with new c-clips and snap rings.
    Do what you have yourself talked into. Heck, it's been whole year since you learned how to change a spark plug.
     
  14. Jul 19, 2015 at 5:46 PM
    #14
    akamrkent

    akamrkent Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2015
    Member:
    #155861
    Messages:
    244
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kent
    San Jose
    Vehicle:
    2004 Black Tacoma TRD
    Homemade Bumper and Skid plate, OME lift, Powertrax auto locker(front dif) and a Leer Shell
  15. Jul 19, 2015 at 5:48 PM
    #15
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Please get rid of the pompous attitude. I have changed my CV boots more times than I care to count and I could probably do it better than you. We all have to learn how to do things from somewhere, so I don't care for your spark plug comment. I am a young mechanic and know how to do more maintenance on my vehicle than 99% of 50 year olds do, why? Because helpful people educate me on how to do things PROPERLY. I am asking a simple question, if there are good boots out there or not, for lifted applications. I still have not made a purchase decision yet. And quite frankly, OEM boots are shit, so you comparing what you say is shit, to shit doesn't mean a thing to me. On 2.5" of lift and highway driving, I'm lucky if OEM boots last two years. I'm looking for something better. Remove yourself from this thread and do something else with your life besides creeping on people's posts from a year ago so you can make a stupid "gotcha" jab. :flipoff:
     
    Last edited: Jul 19, 2015
    12TRDTacoma and EastBayTaco like this.
  16. Jul 19, 2015 at 5:52 PM
    #16
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Thank you sir! I will keep an eye out for your write up! $54 is pretty steep for one boot though. Do you have a picture of what it looks like underneath? How much lift are you running?
     
  17. Jul 19, 2015 at 6:57 PM
    #17
    Dirty Pool

    Dirty Pool FLIES ON THE FRIES, KETCHUPS WATERED DOWN

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2013
    Member:
    #100471
    Messages:
    2,325
    Gender:
    Male
    59.4 Miles, 56.67° NE Of Moab
    Vehicle:
    99 XCAB V6 MT TRD
    Dirty Pool rear bumper/air tank with integrated spare CV shaft storage, DP customized TJM front bumper, 8000 lb Ramsey/Technora rope, E-locked, Extended breathers with front diff catch can, PCV catch can, SAWs with DP heim joint seals, DP custom 6 leaf rear springs/Billies, DP custom skids, 2lo, Gray wire, Cap, Bed Rug, Black steelies, 01 Center console, Map lights, Disraeli gears
    Well, your welcome for me coaching you thru your first two boot slide attempts. Sorry you didn't succeed, most folks do.
    Your thread is titled high angle boots, you came across SDHQ, I told you the facts. You will never get anywhere as a "young mechanic" if you can't take some ribbing.

    One last try.
    The ORS orange boot is a "930" type that clamps on top of the cut off portion of an OEM boot because they are round, not "Tri-lobed" like a Taco. This is not the most reliable set up and it's been around for at least 15 years. There are many different styles, colors and compositions of this "930" boot. Empi makes a bunch of them and CVJ offers them on their rebuilds for an extra charge. They all suffer from potential leakage or just plane popping off. One fellow on here just had a new one (installed by CVJ) rip. They warrantied it but that's no fun.

    And I didn't even need to cuss.
     
  18. Jul 19, 2015 at 7:40 PM
    #18
    akamrkent

    akamrkent Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 23, 2015
    Member:
    #155861
    Messages:
    244
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kent
    San Jose
    Vehicle:
    2004 Black Tacoma TRD
    Homemade Bumper and Skid plate, OME lift, Powertrax auto locker(front dif) and a Leer Shell
  19. Jul 19, 2015 at 11:38 PM
    #19
    12TRDTacoma

    12TRDTacoma Powered by Ford, GM, VW, and Mercedes

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2012
    Member:
    #85133
    Messages:
    16,671
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Rob
    Concordia
    Vehicle:
    12 TRD Sport DCLB 4x4 Supercharged
    Boosted
    No boot slide mod was necessary. All I did was band up the large outer openings nice and tight using their supplied band clamps then zip tied up the inner openings relatively tight just enough to allow it to slide up and down the shafts if they have pulling tension occuring, but at the same time keep the grease frm being flung out.

    I find this extremely difficult to believe. The boot is clamped onto the shaft on both openings of it. The boot most likely suffers the same issues 2nd gen does where it is too short to handle the travel so it ends up excessively pulling on itself which results in tears or even slippage off its clamping surface later on down the road. I don'tknow what kind of driving you do, but I am undoubtedly sure it has the same characteristics of the 2nd gen.

    Also, do us all a favor and lose the "I know more then all of you, so I am above you" attitude. It makes you come off as grandiose.

    Agreed. This guy is talking to us like we just insulted his great ancestors when we have never met or spoke to the guy a day in our lives. I'm sure that attitude sure gets you real far in life doesn't it pal.
     
  20. Jul 20, 2015 at 10:46 AM
    #20
    ThunderOne

    ThunderOne [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Member:
    #17473
    Messages:
    10,043
    First Name:
    Mitchell
    Nashville
    Vehicle:
    1ST GEN OR GTFO
    Toyota NERD
    Thank you for the useful input. As far as BSM goes, the issue now is not with the diff side of the boot tearing. Now the boots are tearing on the inner shaft side, likely due to the stress they have from being pulled. Next go around I will move the extra boot piece back on the groove a bit to resolve that (hopefully). But really the big issue at the moment is not with the inner boot but rather the outer. I have patched it with JB weld after pumping it with moly grease (though not sure if that's the correct type of grease... No one has replied to my other thread) but I need to fix it properly this weekend.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top