Diesel yotas

Honestly... what's the point... Toyota is not coming out with a diesel... these types of threads have been around for years but until they are losing sales to the Duramax nothing will change that. Last anyone looked, pre Duramax 2.8 Toyota continues to dominate the segment. If they lose sales, they will develop and finalize a diesel... maybe... and when/if that happens, it'll most likely be modified in general so until then, let's just enjoy the 3rd gen and forego the endless diesel conversation of what may never be... not this year anyways.

 

I have to disagree, payed 50k for my ram 2500 in 2012, sold it a week ago for 29k, and it was hard to sell at that price... Ended up buying a new taco, a brand spanking new ine was 32k...where the used 2012s with similar miles to my ram were selling like hotcakes ag 29k. Where my truck lost 20k in value in 3 years a gas tacoma lost 3k in value

 

Just to clarify my point, I was trying to say that if you pay the diesel 'premium' over the gas version of the same truck you'll likely get that premium back when you go to sell. I wasn't trying to compare trucks from varying brands. All things being equal except the engine.

 

I would buy a Diesel Tacoma today. This very nanosecond actually if it were available in the USA. I have a VW TDI Golf that gets 55MPG why not in Tacomas??

 

Because no one wants to pay $40K for a Tacoma....oh wait!

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/finally-got-pricing-from-the-dealer-38-800.388856/

 

You won't get 55 mpg in a Tacoma. Probably looking at about 30 mpg overall in a Tacoma. Still impressive but it's hard to justify the purchase strictly on the cost. After the up charge it takes years to get the money back even with a 10 mpg fuel advantage. It's a wash unless you plan on keeping the truck 5 years plus.

Again, not arguing against Diesel. Just pointing that out. You can crunch the numbers to make it work but it'll still take years and you will be assuming some things go very right longevity wise as well.

 

I know. I understand. I would still buy one today. Cuz it would be around longer than a Ford.

I had a 99' Ford F250 with a 7.3L Diesel that got 20 MPG. Note fully loaded or empty. But, I would still have it (sold it 2012) had it not been for rust that never sleeps. Sure that the motor is somewhere generating electricity for someone's home too. That was the best motor Ford ever installed in my opinion.

 

It all depends on the emissions equipment. New Diesels don't run without much maintenance for years like the old ones did.

 

Its all the new emissons crap that is ruining diesel motors. robbing power and mpg. Other wise we would be like every other country and have almost nothing but diesel. But i dont want to live in smog exactly either....

 

Yup. Can't have it both ways.

 

It is my first day on this site...so I am happy to be here and don't want to lose friends. LOL
With that said: Toyota just needs to wake up!! Please hurry. :>)

 

LOL. Its really pretty simple. If the diesel variant of the GM twins takes a significant portion of the mid-size truck market, Toyota will release a diesel Tacoma. If not, they won't.

 

And why are you saying that ??
2014 Touareg TDI- oil change every 10k , fuel filter ($80) once a year recommended by the dealer due to our good gas ,
2012 Tundra 5.7- oil change every 10k
Beside that and some minor greasing ,, I don't see anything additional or different between the two in the maintenance book
I own both and i drive both every day. I offer my both trucks for test to anyone that live close to me so they can see the difference between the two.
I can put a trailer with the same Kubota tractor behind and you can see the difference between the two.
After half hour behind the diesel I guarantee you that you get out of the Tundra, walk away and you will see the new diesel with a different eye.

 

dont you have to replace def?

 

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I operate diesels all the time at work. My comment had nothing to do with the oil change interval nor the drive characteristics of diesel versus gas. My comment simply referenced the fact the diesels from the 1990's (Ford 7.3 L was mentioned) didn't have the emissions equipment or injection systems our modern diesels do. Those systems are touchy and fairly complex, several designs that worked great over long intervals without them now work poorly with them. Ask anyone whose had even a touch of water in their diesel how much it cost to fix there truck... and it's not that uncommon an issue. Diesels used to be simpler engines than gas. It's hard to say truthfully that they still are becuase they are not anymore.

 

What's the mileage on the touareg? Depending on driving habits, new diesel engines can start giving problems between 50k miles-100k miles.

 

you add DEF at every oil change. I pay $85 for oil change include the DEF fill up.

 

Again, my comment had to due with the decreased reliability of current diesel engined vehicles compared to earlier versions. A diesel Duramax is not a 400k truck like a 90's Ford 7.3 L was. It's all becuase of the newer fuel injection systems and the emissions control equipment.

Btw this doesn't mean gas is any better. It just means that diesel doesn't have the same longevity advantages it once did.

 

Past 10 k. I am firm convinced that is not going to be as reliable as the Tundra but the performance and the fun factor is so high ,, that is worth every penny the moment i push that pedal.

 

Kind of silly to compare a poor mans Porsche designed SUV to a half ton lol. Just saying.

Btw an Ecoboost 3.5 L Ford beats a Cayenne Diesel in the quarter mile. It doesn't mean anything to most people. If I wanted a fun drive to work everyday and had the money I'd go with the Porsche. That has more to do with it's design rather than how fast it actually goes. The Cayenne\Toureg was designed to have a light and fun driving style. Half tons are designed to work hard comfortably for a long period of time.