Anyone have pics of All Pro Apex w/stock suspension?

Anyone have a pic of All Pro Apex bumper on a 3rd gen with stock suspension? I would like to get an idea of how much clearance I will gain

Also if anyone has any suggestions of similar "lightweight" or minimalist bolt on bumpers that'd be great

 

I wouldn’t buy that Bumper unless it was used from a member


All pro is scamming customers

 

Oh, for real?
How so?

 

http://www.bodyarmor4x4.com/desert-series-front-winch-bumper-2016-2017-gen-3-tacoma_293

Body armor typically gets a bad rap here for being ugly and heavy, but one of my friends recently bought this and I was pleasantly surprised upon installing it at the build quality. I don't remember where he bought it from but it was only a little over $700 and got to him in less than a week.

 

Short version.

Money goes in.
Product doesn't come out.

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/all-pro-your-customer-service-is-terrible.530306/

 

Well that changes my plans a bit. I'll be looking for other options now I guess

 

I don’t have personal experience with all pro, but from what others, including my friends say; their customer service is soo bad. Sometimes will take weeks of non stop contacting to get hold of someone to find out the status of their order since sometimes they don’t arrive when they are suppose to. I’ve seen someone post in a different forum that they received a package 2 months late and only after harassing the phone and email to get hold of em lol.

 

Check out @RelentlessFab

 

I had no problem getting my all pro sliders. They are local to me and that is the main reason for going with them.