MT Accumulator Delete Mod (ADM) and BS Thread

To me it just reveals that their primary motivations are ROI, and it makes me wonder how much that bleeds into the product quality. We might be better off without it!

Pretty sure I saw something in the 4 cyl section about the difference of headers ... will try to find it.

 

Here is what I went on. The power difference on th ebutt dyno is there, but it's not much really. I more noticed it in my MPG's.

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...b-build-bs-thread.427983/page-9#post-12862618

Also, LCE is an equal length header .. thorley is not.

I will say this, quality on the LCE seems to have gone in the shitter since I got mine. Maybe it was just a bad batch, or QC in general could just have declined. I have seen a few posts since installing mine about the flange angle being off, but mine was good.

Also this ... https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/doug-thorley-vs-lc-engineering.85764/

 

Not to get too far off the OPs topic, but I did just chat with an LCE rep. Says 10% gain with my stock intake and my Magnaflow exhaust.
Mentioned that nearly company using "dyno results" for hp and tq changes are obviously geared to sell their product and too many variables into play to increase results not seen in the real world.

I'm gonna go with LCE. Eventually.

 

Myself as well, IMO the 2.7 with the 5spd delivers the power it has to the wheels in such an efficient manner (due to control and gears) that I can’t see a tune doing anything i can’t already do.

 

In for custom built replacement part.......Clutch is inconsistent in my opinion....

 

I'm guessing he didn't notice it hiding behind the shield.

 

If a tune can address the non-linear throttle-by-wire curve, that alone would be worth it.

 

If that’s a thing for you, then a tune may be for you. I absolutely haven’t felt it.

 

I take it you've never owned a vehicle without throttle-by-wire. Throttle-by-wire is non-linear by design.

 

Best part of owning a car with a mechanical throttle linkage is revving the engine when you've got the hood up.

 

That and the instant throttle response.

 

That's why I asked about lower engagement, I'm sure it feels better. Stock feels high to me, I'm used to that low grab on sports cars.

The only vehicle I helped remove an accumulator on was a buddy's S2000. I don't remember how it felt without it, but with it it almost acted as if it slipped the clutch when banging gears , to save the rear diff from destruction.

 

ditto

 

I tried finding a part number for the accumulator and it's not listed as a replacement part for the 6 speed or 5 speed manual tranny clutch hydraulics, on any of the parts dealer's sites. Kind of weird, no?

 

I had a couple great drives this afternoon, one in stop-n-go rush hours traffic. The engage point seems to be close to where it was is the best that I got. What is different is the zone is smaller, or feels smaller without the dampening of the accumulator. Shifts are snappier.

Given where it feels like it is at, I have no slippage worries.

 

I found it on the toyota.com site. It was listed at freaking $109 and change.

 

Hmmm, looks like the 2.7L 5 speed doesn't have an accumulator after all. I wonder why the clutch feel still sucks?

2.7L 5 speed



3.5L 6 speed

 

I don't know about the 2.7. Someone should peek under theirs. Maybe snap a pic? But, that isn't the 3.5 accumulator. It is the other diagram shown on that page.



I think your second pic is the 2nd Gen 4.0l?

 

I have an 01 tacoma next to my ‘17. You keep saying non linear as if it’s supposed to make me want to tune my truck. I don’t think you really know what this means anyway, not to be a dick... it’s just that you’re coming off like you know what’s best for me, and I’m not into it. My 17 is punchier than my 01.

 

Thanks, I updated my post.