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Doug Thorley vs. LC Engineering

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by Wrencher86, Apr 6, 2010.

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Which header for the 2TR-FE?

  1. Doug Thorley

    75 vote(s)
    39.1%
  2. LC Engineering

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    60.9%
  1. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:02 PM
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    Wrencher86

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    After reading what a lot of other people are saying on here, it seems like a header is the most cost effective way to add relatively cheap HP. I'm looking at either DT or LCEngineering. Wanted to know what everyone else thought.

    If you have one or the other what do think about it, how's the sound, any installation problems? etc, etc.

    DT seems to have a pretty large following, but LC shows higher power gains.
     
  2. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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    i think LC engineering because they have better low RPM gains, and i heard doug thorley loses HP in the low end, and idk about you but when im driving i never really get much higher than 3k
     
  3. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:06 PM
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    It the cost effective way to gain low end torque mostly. hp is a thing of the past, as i see it, because daily driving you never see it. if you look at the dynos for both lce and dt they are almost identical for power but the lce looks as if it reaches a higher torque peak sooner which is great!

    if you were looking at the dyno that lce published with theirs and the dt they "might" not have represented dt gains as "well" as they could have. everyones out to make a buck and they ( i feel) slanted the number to make you see more of a gain than there really is.
     
  4. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:07 PM
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    i have the dt header and i dont feel as though i lost low end hp, but then again i only got a butt dyno and that doesnt mean much

    btw caleb where did you hear that? doesnt seem as though their dyno shows that
     
  5. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM
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    umm i think it was in the DT group buy for 2.7l, i dont remember for sure. but someone said that the LCE is much better for low end. and i dont usually rev that much in DD, so thats what appeals to me in my choice
     
  6. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:12 PM
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    really? did that someone actually have experience with either of them?? not trying to be a dick and i know that equal length tube header have better low end im just trying to figure out how someone comes to a conclusion like that who might not have experience with either of them :) just being curious thats all
     
  7. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:13 PM
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    I keep the RPM's pretty low, so low end grunt is preferable.
     
  8. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM
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    im just saying thats what i heard homie. and thats the guy that had LCE.
     
  9. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:14 PM
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    yes. that why people prefer superchargers over turbo. turbos need time to spool whereas superchargers work off the engine giving gains from the get go
     
  10. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:15 PM
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    i might pm him and ask him if he HAD the dt. again not trying to be an a hole man and it seems to me that i can off a little offensive so i apologize
     
  12. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:16 PM
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    its all good. im just trying to help this guy out.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM
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    Dont know about the DT headers, but I have a Lc header on my truck and I have to say its very nice. Very good build quality. But dont expect magical power gains. I only noticed a small boost in torque but from 3k up is where it shines.
     
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    heres what the other guy said in the group buy:

    also if you take a look there please notice he is a v6 :rolleyes:
     
  15. Apr 6, 2010 at 9:32 PM
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    oooppsss my BBADDDDD
     
  16. Apr 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM
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    Just from looking at both anything with equal length tubes should be a touch better in design hence my interest in LCE. Has LC commented on the low end. I would think regardless this engine just doesnt push much below 2500 and thats too bad as the shift point likes to be down low once warmed up. This may be moot here.
     
  17. Apr 8, 2010 at 6:17 AM
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    If im not mistaken the LCe one isnt made for the 2tr-fe ( gen2 ,right?) , only gen 1 or so... not that I know why it wouldnt work on a gen2. If i recall i checked the part numbers for a 2008 fit and found none.
     
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    The best header performance comes from equally- sized piping from front to back, which the LCE header has and the Doug thorley does not. However, simply based on how they wanted to do our group buy and how they see our interest in their product a prompt to inflate the retail on it, I think I'd just go ahead and get the DT. :)
     
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