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LED Lighting Conversion

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by chan2565, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. Oct 15, 2018 at 8:22 PM
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    RobP62

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    You can lower them by adjusting the wheel with the teeth on the back of the headlight assembly.

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  2. Oct 15, 2018 at 8:30 PM
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    So the fins on the back of the LEDs don't have holes like this

    20180517_185402.jpg

    And you bought the Extreme Pros?

    They don't get hot enough to melt anything. The washer fluid reservoir is way to thick to melt.
     
  3. Oct 15, 2018 at 8:35 PM
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    Yes, I did get the extreme pro's. Another member replied, apparently they changed them recently, supposedly 10 percent brighter also, but I'm not sure.
     
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  4. Oct 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM
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    Interesting. 10% brighter. Double interesting.
     
  5. Oct 16, 2018 at 9:46 AM
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    Finally installed the complete interior light kit from @deAutoLED.com. Like said before the difference from stock is night and day. Almost too bright, haha. Great customer service and they even included a couple spares which I'm glad they did. The only issue I had was with the rear dome light being slightly larger than stock, I tried to cram it in but ultimately bent the connector back a little and made it work. :thumbsup:

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  6. Oct 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM
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    Nice job!
     
  7. Oct 16, 2018 at 10:30 AM
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    Do you also hear any buzz when the map lights turn on or off automatically when light mode is set to door? I installed the same kit and I hear a slight buzz for a few seconds. Just wanted to know if this is normal. Thanks.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2018 at 10:35 AM
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    I don't have those, mine do not buzz, but they flicker like crazy for a second as the truck is being started.

    I usually stick one hand on the brake and one on the push button starter from outside the truck while the door is open, so I'm probably alone.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2018 at 10:49 AM
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    I haven't noticed any "buzzing" noises but I'll try to listen for anything next time I hop in... How'd you install them? Remove the light cover or pop the top console down? I do know one thing, I definitely had to force them bad boys all the way down to be fully seated...but hey, I'm not complaining about a tight fit now :rolleyes:
     
  10. Oct 16, 2018 at 10:53 AM
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    I removed the top console. Yes, it was really tight when I tried to insert the bulbs. Maybe, I did not insert them fully enough and that is what is causing the buzz? The dome light at the back was also a pain to pop in. I wonder if the size of these LEDs are really suited to this Tacoma's interior light fixtures.

     
  11. Oct 16, 2018 at 11:27 AM
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    So I also ended up ordering the H11 HID Kit | Xtreme HID philips Bulb 4300K from the @XenonDepot people.. it was mainly based off some of the comments seen here. When I go to websites and see 20 different color temperature options it just left me confused as to what to choose so recommendations here helped tremendously. Installation was a lot more work then I anticipated, figured it was just a bulb swap but that was not the case, haha... After an hour ish of install everything seems to be working great :)
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  12. Oct 16, 2018 at 11:54 AM
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    I am also thinking of doing a headlight upgrade with an HID kit like this. Was it a difficult installation? What else did you need to do aside from the bulb swap? Thanks.
     
  13. Oct 16, 2018 at 12:00 PM
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  14. Oct 16, 2018 at 2:10 PM
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    Thanks for the support and feedback everyone.

    There should be no buzzing. Make sure it is not touching any metal and it should be fine.

    Any bulb when it is on and you start the car normally flickers due to the voltage spikes. It might just be more noticeable with the LED.

    We can adjust the rear dome sizing but that is what we normally sent out and they didn't hear of any issues so we do apologize.

    Thanks

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    Thanks for the support and feedback everyone.

    There should be no buzzing. Make sure it is not touching any metal and it should be fine.

    Any bulb when it is on and you start the car normally flickers due to the voltage spikes. It might just be more noticeable with the LED.

    We can adjust the rear dome sizing but that is what we normally sent out and they didn't hear of any issues so we do apologize.

    Thanks
     
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  15. Oct 17, 2018 at 12:09 AM
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    Seriously, I didn't mean to throw you under the bus on that one!

    I think you are misunderstanding or did not follow.

    My statements, photos and explanations are 100% accurate. I think the misunderstanding is you were believing I was talking about the headlights (which are projectors), but I was referring to halogen reflectors (fogs). I added a clarifying edit on the projector statement to make it more clear that you do not support running your existing LED products in the projector (headlight).

    My statements, pictures and explanation were around running your products in halogen reflectors, specifically the fogs which your company has specifically supported saying they are "for that area" and you do not see glare running LEDs in "2016+ Tacoma fogs they looked great and the person who left feedback had no reason to lie". @Parker315 commented that he thought your products were designed for halogen reflectors, like fogs, which is what is advertised in many places on the website. I offer the photo evidence to counter the statement, an engineering explanation as to why that is, how to improve the design and why you ultimately need to replace the housing to do it correctly.

    Again, your team said the lights are not meant for the projector, they did say they are specifically for the Tacoma fogs, which is what was shown.

    Insane turn signals are not your friend. Letting someone know you are turning is useful. Blinding the person behind you to reduce their night vision with your blinkers and/or tail lights is hazardous, as shown here:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...-high-power-leds.474996/page-10#post-18843576

    Yes, I mentioned before this is the latest product update from Xenon Depot. The increased cooling mass and surface area by eliminating the holes allows for greater LED thermal capacity, increasing output from 1750 stable lumens to 1900 stable lumens.

    Very well balanced approach. What I hope most get from these threads is an basic educational foundation to make informed decisions like this. The KC G4s only come in 5000k so that is your limiting factor (unless you wanted amber), you can get 5000k HIDs sacrificing ~7% compared to 4300k, to get the headlights to match the fogs. The XD LEDs come in higher at about 5800k according to my measurements, but on high beam no one is going to be comparing the color temp difference of a few hundred k.
     
  16. Oct 17, 2018 at 12:20 AM
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    What we can tell you that there is real customer feedback showing our product causing no glare and that are very bright focused light. What you are showing is not what we seen or any other other customer using our product.

    The bottom line is that NO ONE is going to install our product if it causes glare and there would be returns and negative feedback - we have no idea how you are showing glare.

    Youtube video and photos in that video are NOT showing any glare:



    This person uses this product every day and never is flashed and has no complaints. Why would he have any reason to lie or want to install bulbs that do not work? Better question - why would we ever lie? We are not here to make a quick buck. Our reputation and what we offer is more important than making a sale and many people from the forums that have contacted the deAutoLED team can confirm this as true.

    In the video above - our H11 HID:
    http://deautokey.com/product/35w-slim-digital-ac-canbus-ballast-h7-h8-h11-h15-9006


    H11 Fog:
    http://deautokey.com/product/led-headlight-fog-cree-led-bulb-with-ballast-1800-lumen

    Our front turns are bright dark amber made to alert people - they are not causing issues you are pointing out in the brake/tails. Amber is a very difficult color to get bright during the day and still be visible. Ours do that so in direct sun light you are still able to see them easily.

    7440 Front turns - 7443 are not out yet:
    http://deautokey.com/product/universal-front-turn-signal-leds-fits-all-car-models
     
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    I installed the LEDs at 3 and 9 o'clock, which is the only way an LED retrofit should be installed.

    In the video they compare stock to 3200+ lumen HIDs headlights plus drop in LED fogs. Comparing the first and second photo in the video, the much less bright LED fogs (compared to HIDs) look just as bright as HIDs with extended glare radius facing the vehicle in the video. The LEDs are no where close as bright, the video demonstrates extensive glare, the author is just not informed enough to recognize it. Not getting flashed is not a valid determination of beam control.

    Plenty of people install products that cause glare. I see dozens on the road daily. Even talk to some that have no idea they are blinding everyone and just think their lights are bright.

    Here is an example of my truck. The light on the right is literally over 100% brighter than the light on the left, but they look identical because the cutoffs are maintained and glare is controlled identical stock even though light output is increased substantially. That is what glare and pattern control should look like, it should be indistinguishable to oncoming traffic.

    [​IMG]
     
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    In the video you can clearly see the HID on by itself and then it become brighter on sides when fogs are activated. Not being flashed by others on the road is a good way to show these are not causing blinding glare.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback and glad to see you're happy with your Xtreme H11 HID Kit! What did you find difficult about the install?

    Danny
     
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    I didn't necessarily find anything difficult. I probably just didn't read enough prior and understand that I'd have to install the relay harness and that other little box thingy. In my mind I envisioned; unplug bulb, insert new bulb...lol. I've heard that the relay harness isn't necessary but a precaution...I installed it anyways. The only strange thing I've noticed is when I immediately turn on the headlights they flash bright then go dim and get brighter once they warm up, but I'm sure that's by design.
     

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