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Selecting a light weight wheel/tire combo (TRD Rock Warriors & KO2s)

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by crashnburn80, Jul 9, 2015.

  1. Dec 1, 2018 at 8:51 PM
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    BassAckwards

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    Those look great! Love the white lettering out
     
  2. Dec 1, 2018 at 8:57 PM
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    I'll admit that the hancooks don't have the sexiest sidewall. But they are a nice ride and performed well through the WY mountains and backroads this past fall. Cant beat the cost either. I had the general grabber at2 on before. Those were great tires too...85k miles out of that set and still had 8/32 of tread left
     
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  3. Dec 2, 2018 at 2:28 PM
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    I had not yet conclusively found weight numbers for the sport wheels.

    Nice! If you are certain I can add this info to the original post.

    Well done, that is extreamy light for an oversized tire setup!
     
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    I'll confirm some time this week.

    The FN Countersteers are extremely light.
     
  5. Jan 29, 2019 at 8:26 AM
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    Would you do the BF Goodrich All Terrains if someone did mostly highway driving?
     
  6. Jan 29, 2019 at 12:17 PM
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    If you are not using it for off road and not looking for ‘the off road look’, then no. A true highway tire will give better mpg, and even a less aggressive lighter AT would would be better suited for your needs. Toyota used the BFG Rugged Trails in 265/70R16 P-load as the stock tire for the TRD OR trucks, which is a much milder lighter weight tire. I’m not very versed in truck tires outside of those geared for AT/offroad/snow use. So I don’t have any specific recommendations for your use case other than to pay attention to weight/load rating and look at the wheel and tire weights as a whole.
     
  7. Jan 29, 2019 at 1:32 PM
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    It's not the weight of the tire that kills performance. It is tread pattern and improper inflation. I have E rated 265/75/16 Pirelli's on my Tacoma. They weigh 53 lbs each. Fuel mileage, performance and ride are exactly the same as the 33 lb P rated factory tires because they have a similar AT tread. If I'd gone with a much more aggressive mud tire with much greater rolling resistance, even at the same weight, I'd have taken a hit on fuel mileage and performance.
     
  8. Jan 29, 2019 at 1:39 PM
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    Flat grade highway, yes tread pattern plays a big role. City drive cycle weight plays a big role. Weight also affects power/braking and load rating affects ride. Best of both worlds is a light tire with a mild tread pattern, obviously appropriately inflated.
     
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  9. Feb 2, 2019 at 12:37 PM
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    255/75r17 Cooper STT Pro, C-Load, 51lb
    17x8.5 SCS F5, 22lb
    73lbs total


     
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  10. Feb 2, 2019 at 12:41 PM
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    Nicely done!
     
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  11. Feb 6, 2019 at 9:15 PM
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    Depends on where you're driving when it's not highway. If it's Texas, then hell yes I would.

    I've been running KO/KO2 for 200K+ miles, and just put 50K miles put on the set of factory "Kevlar" tires that came on my TRDOR. In all of those miles on BFGs, I had exactly one instance of a tire losing air, and it had a screwdriver sticking into the tread and out the sidewall. In my one year on OEM tires, I had 7 flats. Most flats were caused by mesquite thorns.

    I'm SO glad to be back on KO2s, and you can see the precise effect on my mileage if you check my fuelly. I've done some calculations which you can check below. I'm running 265/75/16 with E rated sidewall. New tires and lift were installed on 12/19 (Bilstien 5100s with OME 885 springs and an add a leaf).

    MPG with OEM tires: 17.83 MPG 52,803 miles driven
    MPG with BFGs: 17.42 MPG 3,311 miles driven (adjusted by 3.3% for larger tire).


    There is lots of conjecture and guesstimation on TW with respect to tires, lifts, and mileage, but these is facts. :) My only regret is not swapping tires sooner, but I'm a cheap bastard with lots of bills. Hope this helps.
     
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  12. Feb 21, 2019 at 1:47 PM
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    So, what’s the lightest 16x8.5 wheel that anyone has found so far for less than $1500?
     
  13. Feb 22, 2019 at 6:30 PM
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    I don't know about 16x8.5, I don't recall seeing many taco wheels in that size. But for 16x8, FN Wheels has the countersteer type x at 18.5lbs ea and the five star for 18.9lbs ea. They seem to run around $800 for 4. Those are what I'm planning on running sometime soon. FN also seems to have a very good rep around here.
     
  14. Feb 23, 2019 at 9:47 AM
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    Perfect setup. Love those wheels!

     
  15. Mar 2, 2019 at 9:09 PM
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    Really enjoyed reading the post and great info on tire size and weight. I recently bought a 2014 TRD T/X Baja DCSB with less than 20,000 miles. The original BFG's are still on the truck but really need to be replaced in the near future. I have looked on BF Goodrich's web site and the only tire they manufacture in 265/70/16 is E rated. The original tires are D rated. I am assuming they don't make the D rated tire any more so if I want to stay with BFG's I have to go with the E rated tire. The truck also has the Tacoma lean on the driver's side. I plan to do the AAL mod soon. I do have a noob question though...in an earlier post your refer to adding a 1/2" spacer to finally solve the lean issue. Exactly where does that spacer go and where do you get it.
     
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    The original tire was the KO and they are discontinuing production on those with the more advance KO2 being out. The lack of lighter weight C-load options are why I moved to a 17” wheel.

    The spacer goes above the strut assembly below the frame mount. The spacer lifts 2x the spacer size, meaning 1/4” spacer lifts 1/2”. I used 1/2” on the driver side because I also used 1/4” on the passenger side for more lift all front round. If only doing one side to counter lean I would use 1/4” on driver side only. If you go larger than 1/4” you have to disassemble the strut to put in longer top bolts. 1/4” can be installed without disassembling the strut.

    1/2” spacer
    https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p30/HS_1/2"_Top_Plate_Spacers_-_TT05512-TPS.html

    1/4” spacer
    https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p31/HS_1/4"_Top_Plate_Spacer_-_TT05514-TPS.html
     
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    Thanks for the info.
     
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    18lb WHEELS.
    59lbs TIRES for me.

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    Those are some light weight wheels.
     
  20. Mar 3, 2019 at 11:49 AM
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    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/singletrack’s-‘dad-shred-build-thread’-i’m-just-doing-it-for-the-kids.619250/ Sos offroad sliders (kickout + filler) Sos offroad full belly skids (steel) Sos offroad front recovery point Sos offroad concepts HC rear bumper with bedside kickout tubes Marlin Crawler LCA frame brace kit Trail Gear rear diff cover Bilstein 5100 + OME 885 Total Chaos UCA BILSTEIN b110 OME Dakar standard pack Wheelers Ubolt flip kit Wheelers Superbump f/r Wheelers SS extended brake lines FN five star 16x8 -25 Milestar Patagonia MT 315/75r16 Custom projector retrofit (acme super h1 + morimoto 4300k) Baja Designs S2 sport ditch pods on CBI ditch pod mounts Amazon AMAK rock lights CMC CB radio hardmount
    They’re fantastic. FN wheels are legit. They also only cost me $725 including locking lug nuts for five of them (one of them I got for almost free because it was “blemished”). Dustin is the man. At fn wheels.

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