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Rough country 2” leveling kit

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Bruinsfan1122, Jun 29, 2019.

  1. Jul 1, 2019 at 9:17 AM
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    Or an add-a-leaf, I'm planning on doing a 2" spacer in the front and 2" lift add-a-leaf in the rear. It's not unusual for my truck to have 1k+ lbs in the bed. I don't like bro lean even when fully loaded.
     
  2. Jul 1, 2019 at 10:08 AM
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    This is with the 2" spacer and 1" block

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  3. Jul 2, 2019 at 10:03 PM
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    Here you go!
    As you can see the Toyota studs are a bit longer then the spacer is thick. So they require the tips to be ground down for proper seating.
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  4. Jul 3, 2019 at 12:25 AM
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    Unless you cut down your studs?
    I'm fairly sure it is sitting on the tips of the studs. I have yet to see a Toyota that came with short factory studs.
     
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  5. Jul 3, 2019 at 2:49 AM
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    Is there a reason you had to take your strut assembly apart before putting that on? All I did was take my assembly out and sit the spacer right on top and put the assembly back in place. My studs were not higher than the spacer itself.
     
  6. Jul 3, 2019 at 5:20 AM
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    *****READ ME****** http://www.bilsteinus.com/fileadmin/user_upload/user_upload_us/pdfs/Bil_LevShks_WebArticle.pdf *****READ ME*****

    This should help many of you understand how Suspensions should work and why you want to avoid spacers and blocks at all costs.

    Also: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/lifted-16-tacomas.392765/page-225#post-14120205

    "leveling kits" are industry buzz words designed to sell you trash that will destroy your truck. The Tacoma is "level" from the factory in every literal sense of the word. If you are 'lifting' your truck for looks, and not performance reasons, don't do it. The honest truth is you cannot cut costs on your suspension, and a reason so shallow as 'looks' will guarantee lead you to making a bad decision . The suspension is a "system" in your truck that works in conjunction with all the other major parts, and is arguably the most important 'performance' feature on an 'off-road' vehicle, and should be treated accordingly. READ ALOT, and take your time.

    BEWARE of any anecdotal evidence you will get like: "I know John Doe and he has spacer lifts on his truck and hes just fine and drove 1000000000 miles on it." or "If you drive (this way) or (that way) you will be just fine with spacers, because its not "hardcore off roading, just mild" or mental gymastics terms like "for my needs i did spacers" because there is no "need" for a shitty lift over doing a job right. Good luck.
     
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  7. Jul 3, 2019 at 7:47 AM
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    No these are just additional parts I have laying around. Just showing the OP that these spacers require that you shorten the studs.
     
  8. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:31 AM
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    Sorry but I 100% disagree with this!
    I don't think everyone needs to go 100% Full "Baja 1000" suspension or full rock crawler top of the line on every part they install. (That would be idiotic!)

    Because Toyota never built these trucks with top of the line parts to begin with! No manufacture ever does! If they did you or I could never afford to buy one.

    I understand these suspensions better then most. I've been modifying and doing R&D on these trucks since 1979 when Toyota first came out with a 4x4 truck.
    Not everyone is as rich to be able to afford a full top of the line suspension just for a street daily driver.

    There are many level of modifications that fit for other peoples needs. A rock crawler suspension would not do well in a desert high speed race, and vice versa.

    Sorry but I think this is absolute BS! to tell others that what they are doing to their trucks is crap simply because it's not what you'd do.
    If done correctly then these spacers are perfectly fine!

    But the key word is done "Correctly"!

    I'm an advocate to members to find the right modification to fit their needs. Not everyone needs "Top of the line" most expensive crap you can buy.

    Toyota understands that people's need have different levels. That's why the Tacoma goes from the SR to the PRO!

    By this logic? Everyone needs to buy the PRO or nothing at all!

    Sorry not trying to start a fight, but this is about the worst advice I have ever read. (Or at least the mentality of the advice?)
     
  9. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:49 AM
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    I agree with this 100%. I’m really hoping that I did this correctly. I’d hate to take it all apart and see. However it not being correct I’m sure will cause more damage than a few hours of just taking it apart again and looking. Thank you for all the advice.
     
  10. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    21' TRD OffRoad 2" 887 OME on Bilstein 5100's. 285/70R17 General Grabbers G3 17x8.5" Icon TRD wheels (Gun metal gray) 4.75" BS
    You might be able to check this by looking from the top center of the strut mount to see if your spacer is floating? It's hard to see from the side because of how the strut mount is designed. But even to get a good look from the top is difficult.
    Sorry for the bad news.

    Be Safe!
     
  11. Jul 3, 2019 at 8:56 AM
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    Dude I think you'll be fine. I'm in the same boat as you. If I was planning to bomb through the whoops like Robby Gordon, then I'd have a truck like Robby Gordon. Lol. But I don't. As @toku58 wrote, there are many different Taco models, and many different lifts to choose from. In that same vein, there are many different uses for a truck. Some are bad asses and wheel like a mofo. Others (like me) are soccer Dads that are just happy to not be driving a fucking mini van. I want it to do what I need it to not what others need it to do - you know, go to Home Depot, Costco, soccer games, mawl crawl and hit a trail when I can.
     
  12. Jul 3, 2019 at 9:04 AM
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    I just did my lift this weekend replacing with the Eibach 2" lift ( ). A good complete kit, had the front and rear installed in a about 3 hours. Raised the front 2.5" and the rear 2". So it still sits with a slight rake. And looking at the OP's pictures, I did the swap while undoing less parts than they did for just spacers. And for under 1K, this kit rides better now.
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  13. Jul 3, 2019 at 9:16 AM
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    I like this and agree. Thank you all for the kind words and insights. I am def putting the 1 inch block in the back though. Lol
     
  14. Jul 3, 2019 at 11:24 AM
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    OP, In post #1 that's no rear block right?
     
  15. Jul 3, 2019 at 11:28 AM
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    You have absolutely ZERO reading comprehension skills. ZERO, and you fall into lockstep with the utterly idiotic culture this board promotes. Here Ill help you: "dont buy idiot block spacer kits" is the worst advice you have ever read? You are the product of common-core education, I am certain of it.


    The average front & rear Spacer lift set will run about ~$500 with hardware.
    Bilstein for ~$600: https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p401/Coil/Bilstein_5100_Kit_(HS16BK-1).html
    This is a full front&rear fox kit, with rear leafs for $1100:
    http://www.headstrongoffroad.com/store/p400/FOX_Level_1_Kit_-_16__Tacoma.html

    Or this Idiot bait: https://www.roughcountry.com/toyota-suspension-lift-kit-745c.html --- $299.95

    and here is the exact reason why:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/rough-country-3-lift-on-my-2019-tacoma-sport-4x4.601763/

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/my-taco-shaking-really-bad-after-being-lifted.616962/

    This doesn't even seem like a choice. Its mind boggling that you had the financial capability and competence to buy a brand new truck, yet you cheaped out on a $100-$600 price difference between a block-kit and a full on coilver kit, because you used mental gymnastics to convince your self that you had some sort of "needs" or your own "use" to get 285's on your truck as absolutely fast as you humanly could

     
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    ^^^ lame
     
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    That’s correct. No block
     
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    "Common-core education"? LMAO!!!!
    Good luck with your "hear say" suspension expertise!

    Sell crazy somewhere else! We're all full!

    So a couple of bad results probably due to bad installs and that makes every affordable lift crap?

    I'm glad you have Objective quantifiable evidence to prove your facts!

    Since I apparently have zero reading skills? (You should try reading the links in my sig. you'll see I have absolutely no idea of what I'm talking about!)
    I won't waste my time trying to convince you that the world isn't flat!

    Hope you don't fall off the edge! Good luck with that!
     
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    If y’all want to get technical, spacer lifts are bed because they take away down travel. Adjustable coil overs, when you crank them up, also take away down travel.

    I didn’t read the posted article, I don’t care enough.
     
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    I feel like no matter what you do, some people on here will just find a reason to put you down. I have a 2/1.5 inch lift using the blocks too. I don't even want to post about it because it's just gonna get shit on.

    I plan to get a BDS 6 inch lift with 35s sometime next year. I can't wait to see how many people tell me what a dumbass I am for ruining my truck.

    I'm definitely not new to the car modification scene. All subculture has a small number of very loud people that voice their unsolicited opinions every chance they get.
     
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