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Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by AgingDisgracefully, Jul 25, 2019.

  1. Jul 25, 2019 at 8:37 AM
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    How so? All the workhorse trucks running them all over Africa, Asia, and Australia can't just be taking the long way round to the mall.
     
  2. Jul 25, 2019 at 8:49 AM
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    They don’t have Tacomas in Australia. No effort was put into the Tacoma design by ARB. Looks like they drew it on a napkin.
     
  3. Jul 25, 2019 at 8:53 AM
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    Did someone call?
     
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  4. Jul 25, 2019 at 8:54 AM
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    While this is true, you don't think they would ignore one of the most popular 4x4 platform is modern history do you?

    Aesthetically, I agree with you. Still waiting on proof of no design work.
     
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  5. Jul 25, 2019 at 9:14 AM
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    Functionality as a snorkel is likely the same for both. Sure the Toyota one needs the drain holes sealed as any aftermarket solution would as well. Gasoline motors have a fording depth limit that is governed by factors other than intake height regardless. This is why Toyota would a foolish to call it a snorkel. The OEM “snorkel” and airbox on a Landcruiser 70 are also unsealed and intended for dust issues, not fording rivers, as the truck leaves the factory. The fellas doing river crossings are modifying their intake box to seal up the drain holes.

    In my opinion, the OEM Toyota engineers considered these things ARB didn’t for Tacoma:

    -Sight lines (already an issue for Tacoma)

    -getting the intake up out of the dust coming off the hood and around the window.

    -Wind noise and fuel economy.

    -Achieving a strong mounting design utilizing the existing rack inset nuts without requiring the critical A-pillar to be drilled or modified.
     
  7. Jul 25, 2019 at 9:22 AM
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    Needs work to not look so out of place
    And amateur.
     
  8. Jul 25, 2019 at 9:25 AM
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    Yeah, gasser trucks do have inherent water issues, so it is certainly more adept at dust and mud mitigation.

    Full transparency, I have an ARB snorkel on mine, granted it is the converted hilux kit. I can definitely vouch that my air filter is cleaner as a result.

    The hilux kit really hasn't affected my sight lines at all, but the bulky tacoma designed one I could potentially see having that issue.

    Noise and economy haven't changed for me. I did notice cooler IATs, but nothing meaningful on economy. MAYBE a tenth or two.

    I do like the way that TRD attacked the A-pillar mount issue. The downside is that it seems to have killed the OEM / aftermarket rack options because of it.
     
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  9. Jul 25, 2019 at 9:30 AM
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    Looks the the OEM Dingus works fine with the Prinsu design. Not sure if there’s any special effort required.
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    Looks to me like an arm that just shot a three pointer.
     
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    stay tuned, we make the best roof rack, so we'll make the best snorkel too
     
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    thanks man, means a lot, not out to market quite yet but we are working on it. we still need to refine the design and blend the lines a little better
     
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    A few months back we were all out running some trails. Couple of water crossings, nothing crazy. Out of the 5-6 trucks we had with us one of them took on water, truck stalled, stranded. We recovered the truck, got it to the river bank. Host of problems became apparent and we started to recover a truck from the end of a trail that ended up taking about 10-12 hours to get it back to civilization for a tow truck. Long story short truck engine blown. Water in intake.

    This kind of stuff happens. It is what it is. Sometimes we all go through things that when you look back on them they were sketchy and we could have found another way to get from point A to point B.

    My thoughts drifted to different air intake locations and how we could have prevented that from happening to our friend. Can you drive Tacos underwater? No. Of course not. We can all barely go the speed limit and merge into traffic on interstates. All been covered before.

    Same as the roof racks we make. I wanted one and I didn't like the look of what was out there. Intake. Needed a snorkel, DAI, elevated air inlet, or whatever name we want to attach to a device that takes the air inlet port from directly above my tire to a higher, less likely to be underwater location on the truck and I didn't like the look of any of the ones readily available. So I made one.

    Air flow......basic subwoofer enclosure math. The stock intake hole is XXX size. That equates to an amount of volume...in our case we did the math and calculated the square inches of that opening. The "snorkel/dorkel/DAI/elavated air inlet/upTAKE" keeps that volume of "tube" from the old port hole in the inner fender through the tube that connects to the outer fender and then carries that math up to the inlet at the roof rack. It changes shape from round to not so round for cosmetics once it gets to where you can see it but here are a few reasons why:

    1.) It doesn't obstruct my view from the drivers seat. I can still take pictures of mountains, rainbows, big horn sheep, sunrises and sunsets out that side of the truck from the drivers seat and I won't have a Scuba Steve mouth piece in my photos.

    2.) I can remove the actual elevated part and run a can filter on the side of the truck if I want to. It's designed to attach with a silicone sleeve and a couple of hose clamps.

    3.) I absolutely cannot stand the look of a two foot long piece of black plastic running down my passenger fender. If I wanted a black fender I would have bought a black truck. Got a tan one instead.

    4.) The trim ring and grill at the top (grill mesh is classified by percentage of open area) is actually spaced out in front of the intake mouth by .750" allowing unrestricted air intake. The grill is cosmetic and keeps a bird from shooting into the intake at 80mph (downhill, mind to your tailgate) and causing a HUGE feathered mess.

    5.) No idea if we will sell, want to sell, care about selling, etc...We are a roof rack manufacturer. That's what we do and we work really hard to do that well. Inevitably something different like this will spark some questions. If we decided to manufacture these we would pick the way that made the most sense and do the proper testing to make sure they work the way we would all want them to work. Probably dyno the truck with and without to make sure there aren't any performance issues because that would just be good practice.

    6.) Supercharger on a tacoma. LOL. No.

    7.) It's kind of the same thing as most of you guys. I wanted something that fixed a problem that some of us have and there wasn't anything out there that I wanted to spend my money on because I just didn't like the look of any of them. So.......I made it.
     
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    I think it's pretty cool, something different at the very least

    Not too many people that could just pull a unique and functional snorkel design out of a hat. Especially something low profile
     
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    Some people just can't let it go and get on with life.
     
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    Hey, I hope you do! If it’s truly great I may ditch the one I have for it.
     
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    I don't think anyone here was questioning your intelligence, but whenever someone tells someone else they are smart... that's when i raise my eyebrows haha
     
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    That’s a good idea
     
  20. Jul 25, 2019 at 10:51 AM
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    I think it looks good ! You guys got a rough price point yet?
     

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