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Clutch problem

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by YotaK, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. Feb 10, 2020 at 7:41 PM
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    Hey guys newbie here in Alabama. I have a 96 4x4 . The clutch is giving me issues. I replaced the slave and master cylinders yesterday and the clutch seemed fine. Today I can barely shift gears. The adjustment rod is most of the way out also. Any help is appreciated! Thanks
     
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  2. Feb 10, 2020 at 7:47 PM
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    Welcome aboard.
    Weak clutch return spring ?
    Worn or broken shifter cup and bushing ?
    Transmission gear oil change ?
    Slave rod seated properly in pivot ?
     
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  3. Feb 10, 2020 at 7:52 PM
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    Haven’t changed the fluid.
    I’ve heard of the spring but I’m not sure about it. Isn’t it part of the pedal assembly?
    The slave rod is seated correctly.
    I’ve changed the master and slave twice now and it seems to do the same thing. Works good then doesn’t work much at all. Have to push it all the way down touching the floor to get it to shift.
     
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  4. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:04 PM
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    The return spring should raise clutch pedal all the way to up position. Where are you buying slave and master cylinders ? Not all replacement parts are created equally.
     
  5. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:07 PM
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    The pedal doesn’t always come all the way back up sometimes I have to pull it up with my foot. I’ve bought cheap ones and more expensive with the same results. Any chance the actual clutch is going out?
     
  6. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:14 PM
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    If you have to pull the pedal up with your foot you have a return spring issue. When the clutch goes it starts slipping in gear without driving wheels.
     
  8. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:19 PM
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    Yeah I didn’t know if the clutch could go in a different way. How hard is the spring to replace and would that cause the issue of not allowing me to shift?

    Glamisman I read that but forgive me I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
     
  9. Feb 10, 2020 at 8:31 PM
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    The search TacomaWorld search bar is your best resource for repairs with pix. Open TW browser to 1st gens. Enter "Clutch spring" choose "Thread titles" and "This Forum"
     
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  10. Feb 10, 2020 at 9:58 PM
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    Would the spring cause issues with the clutch operation?
     
  11. Feb 11, 2020 at 4:51 AM
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    It sure sounds like the OP is drawing air into the system after bleeding when it sits over night .

    As it seems things work then they don`t .Hydraulics failing that fast after a few uses .

    Just what does barely shift gears mean??

    Things just grind as you attempt to move the shifter into gear??

    Recruit a helper to push the clutch and watch the movement of the slave cylinder .
     
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    It’s like it’s hard to get into gear unless I press the pedal down til it’s touching the floor. Then sometimes the pedal doesn’t come back up. So I may get in it push the clutch in and it may not shift into gear. Then I pull the clutch up and press it and it’s a little better and will shift.
     
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    Yes. If the spring doesn't return the pedal the full stroke of master cylinder isn't achieved and clutch may not fully disengage allowing transmission to spin and make it difficult to shift into gear.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2020 at 6:33 AM
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    OP hasn't stated if he's bled all the air out of the system from changing out those parts. I'm leaning this way also until we know he's thoroughly and correctly bled the air out.
     
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    OP stated the clutch pedal doesn't return to top and has to be lifted up with foot. Stupid plastic bushing ? The pedal should return with air in system? Right? Time for the spring mod ?
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/clutch-squeak-linear-spring-swap-tw-how-to.159429/
     
  16. Feb 11, 2020 at 6:43 AM
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    But if it were just the pedal not returning, no l I wouldn't say air. But with the other symptoms of clutch not completely disengaging until at floor and that stuff as well is what pushed me to that thinking, that's how I read it or understood it at least
     
  18. Feb 11, 2020 at 6:49 AM
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    Yes I bled all of the air out.
     
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    I’m feeling like I need to check the spring.
     
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  20. Feb 11, 2020 at 6:53 AM
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    I need to try and bleed it again. I’ve had lots of manuals but this one is confusing me. I’m wondering if the hose may have a tiny hole in it causing the system to suck air
     

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