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ADS Off-Road Racing Shocks - Information, Pictures, & BS Thread

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by TaylorU, Aug 23, 2014.

  1. Feb 14, 2020 at 5:10 PM
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    ferntr33

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    im gonna lower my front to stock height to get better alignment numbers. You think lubing threads is needed for week old coilovers, especially since I’m taking off preload?

    I knew they would be stiff. I’m going for a pothole warrior build since I spend 95% on freeway and streets and only a few hours in the desert when I go hunting.
     
  2. Feb 14, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    Lowering them is definitely the easier way but yes, I would lube them no matter what. I would lube them even if you’re just thinking about adjusting them. :D
     
  3. Feb 15, 2020 at 10:42 AM
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    I’m just worried about the dust and dirt that sticks to lube. I guess best practice would be lube it, adjust it, then clean the lube out of the threads.
     
  4. Feb 15, 2020 at 1:25 PM
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    Sixthelement

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    There's graphite dry lube.
     
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  5. Feb 19, 2020 at 7:04 PM
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    Alignment shop got it bang on so I’m gonna stay leveled for a bit. Looking to revalve the rear though. Anyone know what the rear valve stack looks like? I was gonna rebuild them myself eventually. Guess I’m gonna learn sooner than later.
     
  6. Feb 20, 2020 at 6:53 AM
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    Just curious what you are feeling while driving that makes you want to revolve? Or are you wanting that for specific application?
     
  7. Feb 20, 2020 at 1:35 PM
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    The compression matches the rebound well. It recovers from everything in what feels like one stroke where billies bounce. But the initial shock is jarring in the rear. I drive a Freightliner m2 for work all day. And I commute 120 miles a day. And since I put the rears on my neck gets a little soar from the commute.
    I would compare the feeling to having a tire at 44psi vs 30 psi.

    I’m not building an off-road racer. More of a freeway pothole killer.

    Also that’s why I spent the money on the rebuildable shocks without adjusters. Once I dial in commute my 2% of off-road finding hunting spots will be an afterthought.

    just ordered the tools and shims from ADS.
     
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  8. Feb 20, 2020 at 1:40 PM
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    Buys racing shocks for commute potholes... o_O
     
  9. Feb 20, 2020 at 2:05 PM
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    :anonymous:
     
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  10. Feb 20, 2020 at 2:08 PM
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    oh, and :anonymous:
     
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  11. Feb 20, 2020 at 4:13 PM
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    Just to revive this, I found this thread on coilover lengths: https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/coilover-lengths.403450/

    King: 21.687 ext and 16.75 com. 4.937" of travel.
    King Extended: 22.625 ext and 16.75 com. 5.875” of travel
    Fox: 22.48 ext and 17.59 com. 4.89" of travel.
    Fox 2.0 22.225 ext and 17.6 com 4.625 of travel
    Icon:22.574 ext and 17.42 com. 5.154" of travel
    ADS: 22.250 ext and 17.75 com. 4.5" of travel
    ARB BP51 :21.67 ext 17.32 col 4.35” of travel

    For my use, what's interesting to me isn't actually the amount of travel, but the extended lengths. Looks like they're all in the same ballpark but probably missing out on a 1/2-3/4" of wheel droop with ADS vs King/Fox/Icon. Also, really surprising how short the BP51's are. Anyway, I'm 9000% sure that it is insignificant for me. I love the way these things handle on and off road.
     
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  12. Feb 20, 2020 at 4:15 PM
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    This doesn't suck.​

    20200220_181423.jpg
    I could probably take the sway bar off now. :)
     
  13. Feb 20, 2020 at 4:54 PM
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    Ugh. I hate you for posting those wheels. Debating getting those. Not sure I'm a deep dish kinda guy though.
     
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    Hell yeah, glad to hear that.
    It's not even that deep. My spindle setup pushes the fronts out 3/4 each side so its exaggerated.

    20200216_085849.jpg

    They are a tiny bit deep :p

    Edit: you could also get them in 8" width with less backspace
     
  15. Feb 20, 2020 at 5:10 PM
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    If you could revalve 5100’s I would have gone that route. I guess I’m a tool cause I rode a Ducati 899 on the street and not the track too huh?
     
  16. Feb 20, 2020 at 7:07 PM
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    What bumper?
     
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    I do feel and hear a thud very slightly after a bump and i was explained this is just my spring trying to get back on the ground as soon as it can totally normal
     
  19. Feb 21, 2020 at 5:36 AM
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    Not calling you a tool, just funny and interesting when people buy offroad racing shocks for the street. It's your money so IDGAF. It does affect how these companies valve their shocks from the factory though. I requested more aggressive valving on mine because a couple of the guys who really push these shocks have told me the valving is on the light side. I assume that a lot of that comes from their explosion in popularity in the 3rd gen crowd who do use it on their street queens.
     
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  20. Feb 21, 2020 at 4:55 PM
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    I see it as a rebuildable shock with a spring over it. If Ohlins made a bolt in application I would probably go that route. I’m just trying to build my system to use max suspension travel at the speed I drive most over the terrain I drive most. But I agree with the mall crawlers that just want the most lift possible just to fit their 20” MTs.
     
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