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4:88 gears with 5600 lb towing Question and mods!

Discussion in 'New Members' started by Taco230032, Feb 21, 2021.

  1. Feb 21, 2021 at 10:23 AM
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    Taco230032

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    Body armor 4x4 semi hidden winch bumper. Hooke road roof rack. Hooke road high height bed rack. Tyger nerf bars. MBRP front skid plate. TRD OR transmission skid plate stock added. TORQUE air bag suspension rear. 4:88 nitro gears. ARB rear lockers with onboard air compressor. KSP 2-4" UCA. Front Fox 2.5 with res with 3" lift. Fox 2.0 with LS adjustors. 2" AAL rear. Open country toyo 255/80/17 33” tires. Stock sport rims. Plastidipped everywhere!
    Hi TW!

    For my first post.

    I have been reading up on forums after forums. Most of the ideas are credited by you guys at TW. And if anything, possibly the reason why my truck stands alive today. So thank you all. My situation could be if not, a rare one I have yet seen/read.

    TT weight:
    5600 lbs dry weight. 24ft, 28ft to the tongue.

    With husky weight distribution hitch. 1000 tongue/10,000 weight.

    TORQUE air bags 5000lbs per bag capacity.
    Torch 1.5-2" aal.
    4:88 nitro gears.
    Fox 2.0 with cd adjustors
    Tekonsha p3 break controller

    If google is correct, stock is a little over 4400 lbs. Weighted the truck is 4800 lbs. 400lbs on gear /tires above stock.

    The extra 400lbs on the truck are:
    Hooke road roof rack
    MBRP front only skid plate
    Bodyarmor 4x4 southern style winch bumper
    Tyger dual girdle nerf bars
    Open country atii 255/85/17. (20 lbs + per tire from stock weight)


    Also upgraded transmission radiator daisy chained with stock trans cooler with a
    $52 hayden 679 universal 11” rapid-cool add-on transmission cooler to enhance cooling (not for direct replacement of the factory unit)
    hayden 679 with a
    $127 maradyne m103k champion series 10" 130W reversible s-blade fan
    maradyne m103k 10" fan in a pull configuration to help cool my radiator in tandem. Trans theromostat pinned since I live in socal.

    Please, any input is welcome!
     
    Taco230032, Feb 21, 2021
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  2. Feb 21, 2021 at 10:33 AM
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    Bishop2Queens6

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    If you're comfortable towing it, then more power to you.

    I have the same trans cooler and it's been performing great, but I'm towing a 21ft TT, 23 ft tip to tip, 4000# dry, 5000# loaded.

    Maybe if you have some load E 10 ply tires it will increasing towing stability a bit more or even a sway controller (I run the harbor freight one with great success) just to prevent the trailer from wagging.

    You've got everything else going for you for some good towing. Travel trailer is a lot heavier than I would tow, but if you feel it's in control then it's all good.
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2021
    Bishop2Queens6, Feb 21, 2021
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  3. Feb 21, 2021 at 10:46 AM
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    Taco230032

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    Body armor 4x4 semi hidden winch bumper. Hooke road roof rack. Hooke road high height bed rack. Tyger nerf bars. MBRP front skid plate. TRD OR transmission skid plate stock added. TORQUE air bag suspension rear. 4:88 nitro gears. ARB rear lockers with onboard air compressor. KSP 2-4" UCA. Front Fox 2.5 with res with 3" lift. Fox 2.0 with LS adjustors. 2" AAL rear. Open country toyo 255/80/17 33” tires. Stock sport rims. Plastidipped everywhere!
    Driving it with a 3% grade jumped rpms from 2000rpm (normal) to 2800rpm (only does this with trailer attached) at 40mph. Usually with the 4:88 gears it only goes from 2000 to 2200 rpm steady. Increase in speed to 50mph it jumps rpm to 3000rpm for 2seconds then drops down to 2200 rpm at 50mph. AtF temps with obdii shows 160 F. This is after top off on the atf (which was about a quart low from factory).
     
    Taco230032, Feb 21, 2021
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  4. Feb 21, 2021 at 11:39 AM
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    Black DOG Lila

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    Black DOG Lila, Feb 21, 2021
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  5. Feb 21, 2021 at 1:04 PM
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    Body armor 4x4 semi hidden winch bumper. Hooke road roof rack. Hooke road high height bed rack. Tyger nerf bars. MBRP front skid plate. TRD OR transmission skid plate stock added. TORQUE air bag suspension rear. 4:88 nitro gears. ARB rear lockers with onboard air compressor. KSP 2-4" UCA. Front Fox 2.5 with res with 3" lift. Fox 2.0 with LS adjustors. 2" AAL rear. Open country toyo 255/80/17 33” tires. Stock sport rims. Plastidipped everywhere!
    Thank you for the welcome. How much of a benefit would a magnuson supercharger (another 8k$ worth the upgrade?) be with towing? I hear the conception of making the 3.5l into a v8. Would it tow like a tundra?

    Anyone experienced with the supercharger installed?
     
    Taco230032, Feb 21, 2021
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  6. Feb 21, 2021 at 2:47 PM
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    buckhuntin-tacoma

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    Welcome to TW!
     
    buckhuntin-tacoma, Feb 21, 2021
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  7. Feb 21, 2021 at 4:05 PM
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    Bishop2Queens6

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    I've asked a similar question about a supercharger helping with towing.

    I've got some good responses from members:

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/6-cylinder-towing-review.68038/
     
    Bishop2Queens6, Feb 21, 2021
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  8. Feb 21, 2021 at 7:00 PM
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    Thanks for the link. Read the entire forum. I guess I wont be going s/c route. So I guess now the question remains. I am geared to 4:88. Should I regear "again" to 5:29 to help with towing? Is it worth it? Differences?

    Not looking for speed, I drive daily not beyond 70mph anyways. Looking to keep my taco for many decades.
     
    Taco230032, Feb 21, 2021
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  9. Feb 22, 2021 at 5:51 PM
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  10. Apr 11, 2021 at 8:41 AM
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    Update in case anyone is curious.

     
    Taco230032, Apr 11, 2021
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  11. Apr 11, 2021 at 9:17 AM
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    Welcome to the TW forum Taco230032 :thumbsup:

    Nice set-up :cool:
     
    De Taco, Apr 11, 2021
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