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rear suspension recommendation to go with +2" LT in front?

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by jwarr, Jul 8, 2021.

  1. Jul 8, 2021 at 9:22 AM
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    jwarr [OP] Well-Known Member

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    We are leaning towards a +2" LT in front. In New England so not looking to jump, just want more wheel travel for trails...

    What you you guys recommend for a rear suspension set up that would match it?

    Thanks in advance for any input
     
  2. Jul 10, 2021 at 2:42 PM
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    Hey, where ya located? I'm out of Boston but wheel up in Burlington, VT most of the year.

    I'm about to go +3.5, wish I did +2 based on the trails we experience but oh well, my buddies F250 makes it so can I.

    This is what my build list looks like for the rear,
    Archive Garage Hammer Hangers https://archivegarage.com/explore-archive/ols/products/tacoma-hammer-hangers
    Archive Garage Shock Relocation Bracket https://archivegarage.com/explore-archive/ols/products/taco-shock-relocation
    Icon Multi-Rate RXT Add-Leaf Pack https://www.iconvehicledynamics.com...coma-multi-rate-rxt-leaf-pack-w--add-in-leaf/
    Fox Long Travel 2.0 DSC 12" 7/8 Smoothies https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/fox-2-0-smoothie-shock-78-shaft-remote-reservoir-12-travel/


    I've also got a nice pair of Icon Omega bypass shocks I'd sell local for a steal
     
  3. Jul 12, 2021 at 6:32 AM
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    Thanks, we are in Westford. I like that you have options to play with lift height with the add a leaf. What are your thoughts on going SUA?
     
  4. Jul 12, 2021 at 6:34 AM
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    be mindful your purpose..."add a squeek" might not be the best in the long run
     
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    My rear setup is very similar to that shared above to pair with my +2.25 kit up front. I primarily crawl, maybe some spirited driving on a fire road. No desert whoops for me.

    Hammer Hangers. For shackles I have OEM shackles with poly bushings
    https://archivegarage.com/explore-archive/ols/products/tacoma-hammer-hangers

    Archives new relocate desiged around 12"x2.0 smoothies
    https://archivegarage.com/explore-archive/ols/products/tacoma-shock-relocation-trail-2

    Option 3, archives yellow bumps
    https://archivegarage.com/explore-archive/ols/products/stealth-toyota-u-bolt-flip

    Icon RXT option 1
    https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/icon-rxt-leaf-spring-96-up-tacoma-00-06-tundra/

    King 2.0x12 smoothies, tuned by accutune
    https://accutuneoffroad.com/product/king-2-0-smoothie-shock-remote-reservoir-12-travel/

    You'll also need extended brake lines. Give crown performance a call and order some +6" lines.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CMe70sUHKjF/


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  6. Jul 12, 2021 at 6:58 AM
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    Oh and since you mention "leaning towards", I'm assuming you haven't bought a long travel kit yet. If you haven't seen this one already, it's fantastic.

    https://jdfabrication.com/collections/05-15-6-lug/products/tacoma-05-18-2-long-travel-kit

    If you get the upgraded 934 axles, they articulate more than OE style, and because of that, you'll get +3.5 travel numbers out of a narrower kit. They also make a CV pocket in the LCA which allows it to tuck up higher, i.e. more ground clearance. The LCA is .875" forward to aid in firewall clearance. There are other benefits but those are the main highlights I like to hit. I just recently installed it and am still dialing it in, but I'm a huge huge fan.
     
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  7. Jul 12, 2021 at 9:21 AM
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    Nice love that area. I have been a little hesitant as I read 90% of these LT setups using deavers. But the post above from @EatSleepTacos reassured me... Since I really don't want to spend another 2k on SUA and I've got the multi rate rxt already.

    I've already got a DK +3.5 kit but haven't bought axles yet. Am confused since it doesn't actually state the length of these, would this be an alternative to CVJ +3.5's with better degree angulation. https://jdfabrication.com/collections/gen-3-tacoma-16-6-lug/products/tacoma-05-18-4-long-travel-kit

    I'm planning hammer hangers 3.6", shock relo, 2.0x12 fox and multi rate rxt probably option 1 and then timbren bumps.

    How spaced are those wheels? They look far out there, I assume no bedsides? Is that what mine is going to look like without bedsides with +1.25 spacer (thats required right to fit this)
     
  8. Jul 12, 2021 at 9:30 AM
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    I was talking to OP about which kit he should get.

    But yes, the 934 would articulate more than CVJ offerings. At droop on standard axles (where inner joint is a tulip style) you're near the limits of articulation, so there's additional stress on the outer joint. The 934 axles relieve that, as well as have a much stronger inner joint. There's a dropdown to select the length of the shaft on the website. I think that the +4 axles would work with your 3.5 kit because the inner joint plunges but you'd have to confirm with @81Trekker as he's the JD Fab POC.

    As far as my poke, that's because I have no flares, 9" wide x 3.5" backspace wheel, and the long travel. The rear, I have 1/2" spacers to clear my shock.
     
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    Ah I see it now, slow morning haha. I imagine if they only have 2.25 and 4, its likely for 3.5 with the additional inner j angle- makes sense.

    Seems its really not much more expensive besides labor?
     
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    You'll have to assemble them yourselves (source and install an outer joint and boot) or pay them to do it. I did it myself and the worst part was separating my outer joint off of my CV. If I were to do it over I would just mail them two complete OEM CV's and pay them to do all the assembly.
     
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    Yeah I'm not going to be doing this part myself, buddies that run a mostly 4x4/jeep shop are willing to help. Appreciate this, and for OP I think this is a worth wild investment in new england just as much as baja running. The aggressive articulation combined with locker & strictly rocks we face around here has f*cked some CVs.
     
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    Thanks! So educate me on the Archive Garage Hammer Hangers. What are they adding over stock?
     
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    The rear leaf hangers are thin, stamped metal. They flex around ever so slightly on bumpy, jarring roads. Even on pavement, think rough construction areas. The hammer hangers keep the same geometry but are incredibly beefy. This allows the hangers to stay still and let the suspension properly work. The vast majority of people note an improvement in ride quality with them, even on a bone stock truck. If you don't have a spare tire under the truck, you can add a crossbar to make them even more rigid.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-hammer-hangers-soa-sua-archive-garage.519625/

    By also being beefier, if you ever hit them on a rock, you won't bend them. I've bent my stock hangers before.
     
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    What are you at for lift with your +2.25" kit up front?
     
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    No clue, no good way to measure the front but I guess around 2"-2.5". I just adjust the coilovers until I'm happy. I do know my rear is at 1.5" lift. I'm able to measure from the top of the axle tube to the bottom of the frame rail for that number.

    This was taken today after adjusting the coilovers and I may drop it down a hair.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Archive trail 2.0 series. Affordable and crazy travel. I have it on the icon leaf back and 2.0 bumps stops and 14" springs. 20210708_135827.jpg
     
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    Hammer Hangers as well? or just the shock relocate? Also, that kit is for a 12" shock, but you are running a 14"?
     
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    Currently stock rear hangers. Will eventually upgrade. The relocation kit kf for 12 or 14s. I opted for 14s so I could get every last inch. They fit perfect and the lower mounts are pretty much level compared to stock so you gain clearance 20210708_123759.jpg 20210708_191700.jpg
     
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    I just want to add that only some 14's fit, most are too long. It really comes down to what the collapsed length is on the shock.

    upload_2021-7-13_14-4-48.jpg
     
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