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Tacoma Hammer Hangers - SOA + SUA - Archive Garage

Discussion in 'Archive Garage' started by ARCHIVE, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Nov 13, 2017 at 4:57 AM
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    $20 TW discount + every order entered for giveaway
    Free Hammer hangers drawing list for buyers in the next batch, See post #722 for details:
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...a-archive-garage.519625/page-37#post-19224143
    Past Giveaway Winners:
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    2. Doug G. post #366
    3. @dcoursler post #485
    4. John @Naveronski post #631
    5. TBD in post #722

    $20 discount for TacomaWorld members, message ARCHIVE for coupon code to use at checkout
    Details and ordering here: https://archivegarage.com/products/tacoma-hammer-hangers


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    Installer Review:

    "I'd also like to give a shout out to Eric @archive_garage, I've installed a few different companies aftermarket Tacoma leaf spring hanger replacements and his is by far the best design, both fit and function wise. This is definitely another great product from his company and I'd recommend this over all the other options and that's speaking from install experience. His hangers are on a whole other level."

    Ride Quality Improvement Feedback:

    "After about 2k miles of which 500 was on some of the roughest roads I've been on, I can say that I'm super impressed with these!" (OME Dakars)

    "I bought a pair of Eric's shackle hangers and they are AWESOME. Completely changed the feeling of the truck...the stock springs that everyone bemoans are totally transformed when their anchors are not flapping like a screen door in a stiff breeze." (Stock springs, 2016 AC)

    "I have to say it is pretty crazy how it changes the ride quality! It is AWESOME" (AP expo)

    "cushy" (Deaver expo U402)

    "What a difference" (AP expo)

    "Smooth...less sway" (OME Dakars)

    "Just from driving on the street I can immediately tell the improvement in ride quality. Its the real deal guys!" (OME Dakars)

    "I was not prepared for such a dramatic change in ride quality after the install. If you haven't already read up on his hangers, I'd highly recommend them" (Icon RXT)

    Details:

    -Noticeably improved ride quality, increased travel capacity and designed to glide over rocks and take abuse. These should be the first mod on a brand new Tacoma, because flimsy stock hangers are the cause of the signature Tacoma rear jitters, address the root cause! You could spend thousands on rear shocks and springs and still have that annoying jitter, start here first! You won't be sorry

    - Compatible with Spring Over Axle (SOA) trucks from completely stock to fully built, improved geometry to help shackles drop out (with aftermarket springs). No other mods are required to run these hangers

    - Compatible with Spring Under Axle (SUA) conversions (see here: HD Deaver U539/540) but requires the 4.5” shackle option (for extra droop and so you don't have to stretch the spring back).

    -Height with stock 3.4" shackles will be very minimal, max 3/8” lift (since revision). Height with 4.5" shackles would be about equal to stock hanger/shackle.

    Details and ordering here: https://archivegarage.com/products/tacoma-hammer-hangers

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  2. Nov 13, 2017 at 5:01 AM
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    Sweet!
     
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  3. Nov 13, 2017 at 9:52 AM
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    So I see on the ordering page there are notes for spring type. Are there different hangers for say Dakars vs Deavers or is it just for data gathering purposes in case there is an unexpected issue with some spring combinations?
     
  4. Nov 13, 2017 at 9:59 AM
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    It's so I can recommend the right shackle length and also Allpro and older Deaver springs come with narrower than stock bushings, spring eye spacers are a selectable option to remedy.

    Eric
     
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  5. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:17 AM
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    Damm those are beeeeef. Say I wanted to go this route but already have your shackle flip would it just bolt straight up with the holes I already have in the frame? Also are these basically an upgraded version of the shackle flip or something totally different?? I'm definitely interested just not exactly sure what all is going on hahahaha sorry
     
  6. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:23 AM
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    So for a SOA set up using either Dakars or the U402 expo Deavers, and just the standard OME set up, the stock shackles would be best correct?
     
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  7. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:27 AM
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    Thanks Jon! I appreciate the honesty, it can be confusing I admit. This is a tension style hanger like the stock hanger, so nothing gets flipped. And for those who have a shackle flip, this bolts into the rivet holes you've already drilled out, so the hard part is already done.
     
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  8. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:33 AM
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    To get the shackle to fully drop out, yes, longer springs like Deaver U402, All Pro Expo, Alcan should stay with a stock length shackle (Alcans are too long for stock hangers, something they also on Dodge but they dont listen to customers:mad:, so not sure the shackle will drop out). Dakars are short and might be able to get the long shackle option to drop out, not sure. The stock shackles are strong enough, and I have an option to supply quality bushings for stock shackles, but I don't know how much work it is removing stock steel/rubber bushings.
     
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  9. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:42 AM
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    @ARCHIVE You doing any other Black Friday special pricing deals?
     
  10. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:45 AM
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    What are you thinking? I was thinking about the shock relocation kit. I already have a great price on springs.
     
  11. Nov 13, 2017 at 10:47 AM
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    Ordered :cool:

    Forgot my Tacomaworld handle in the notes section though...oh well.
     
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    Just wondering. I'm looking to upgrade my suspension finally. Have a good amount of weight added now with bed cage, sliders, RTT, soon a rear bumper with tire carrier. Need to upgrade my components. Would love to "one stop shop" (as much as possible) if the prices are right.
     
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    I can set you up based on your needs, individual basis currently
     
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    Ohhh ok now I got it thanks Ya I actually love your shackle flip I was just curious.
     
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    so wait... you guys sell a shackle flip and a HD shackle hanger... which is better?
     
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    Yes, tis true. The shackle flip has some compromises, but also good for rocks. The new Hammer hangers are right for 90% of people, and plenty strong for hitting rocks, and better travel capability than flip, both bump and droop. I think we'll see 13"-14" travel from some of the common springs, that's vertical non-articulated. Feels good having a shock relocation capable of 14"

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  17. Nov 13, 2017 at 12:07 PM
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    So i am currently flipped and my springs are flattening out and my rear end is too high. I would like to go back to factory geometry. Do i need to replace my rear springs if i choose to do these shackle hangers?
     
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    What springs? I bet you just bolt these Hammer hangers in and it will fix it up
     
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