Engine Done

i dont think you guys have a good handle on what a conversion cost and time compared to just swapping the same engine and plugging everything in. You're talking 3 days or less for a shop to put in the same engine and weeks at the very least for a conversion.

 

Not quite the point I was making sir.

 

And then there is that nagging little issue of emissions compliance.

Also you would have a vehicle that essentially nobody except the conversion company could/would work on.

This isn't remotely the same as putting a 350 in a 1949 Ford pickup.

 

Engineers don't work like that. Most of them are very book smart, with little common sense.

The Archoil works well on Ford diesel injectors, but no Ford recommendation.

I've had a few other Tacoma owners tell me my engine is very quite, and it is, but only after I added Archoil.

You don't like it, then don't used it. But don't spread lies on a product you've never tried.

 

Exactly what part did I lie about?

 

Sure you did.

 

if an oil additive could fix that, they'd use it.This is not true. There are a lot of additives made that have a positive effect, and Ford does not use them.

 

What point were you trying to make with and I'll quote.
"The last three engine problem posters had a total of 7, 21, and 14 posts respectively. These engine problems aren’t occurring to engines of longer standing members. Just saying…."

 

Fully aware of the cost and time, I’ve helped a buddy slap an LS1 in a Mazda RX-7 many moons ago. I was just spitballin ideas, ya know “while you have your engine out, you could totally do (insert idea)”. Also I’ve had an engine replaced (same engine 1 for 1 swap) on a vehicle and it took a month to get back. It’s gonna cost time regardless.

 

Maybe this stuff will help? Been around since 1923 so it must be good!

 

My thought is NOT that members with few posts don’t take care of their trucks like higher posting members do, but instead, these posters who seem to cut-and-run just might not be legitimate. I find it curious for two reasons. One, there has been a recent run on engine failures and most are from those with very few posts. Secondly, why is it they would only post negative experiences? I’ve been wrong before but this is where my head is at the moment.

 

Maybe they belong to ''trolls are us''

 

Ha Ha! That's not a lie. That's a business decision on their part. Clearly they don't think it works or they're incredibly short sighted not to check it out. It's a pretty stupid business decision on their part not to use an oil additive if can solve a $10,000 per breakfix that's so bad Ford updated their policy to 100% covered up to 60,000 prorated over 9,000 miles, and, at 69,000+, the owner eats the $10,000 completely. They could save millions on warranty claims on that engine by having the dealerships start adding it to the engine if it solved the problem. It's uncommon but not unheard of to change a specification of a lubricant for many systems not just engines or even cars. The cost of the oil additive falls on the owner right along with the oil changes so the actual cost to Ford is nothing more than the R&D to figure out if it works. And that would protect the good will (intangible benefit) in the brand.

BTW: their "fix" was to reprogram the ECU. My guess is they told the computer the drift in the valves can be more than 5 degrees and still not report a problem with the valve train. Five degrees is what I've read is the threshold where the ECU decides the engine needs to be serviced for valve train issues. Don't know the degree it decides to refuse to start the engine.

 

Nah. Nobody notices when things work right.

 

There's a company who will do it for $32K. They recommend you take your truck to a mechanic who works on VW TDIs for service. They claim to use the genuine Toyota 4 cyl diesel engine with about $10K of labor and $22K in parts. They're not the only choice one could use. The cost of the conversion isn't worth it but since we're talking dream conversions since someone mentioned a V8. We might as well throw the diesel option though that company wouldn't be a viable choice except maybe for a large government who wants to standardize on one engine fuel. To be honest, I suspect their only real customers are the US Military (guessing here since they do the conversion to the Kawasaki's dual sport 650s they buy) and people with a lot of dollars but no sense.

I know Cummins makes diesels that could work. Think I've actually seen a youtube video involving such a conversion though I don't think it was a Toyota that was converted. Kabota makes a 3 cyl tractor engine that Robert Riley uses in his XR-3 Hybrid coupled to the VW bug's front wheel drive stack. It's actually a good looking reverse trike (looks like a 3 wheeled car with design influences from the light cycles in the movie Tron).

 

That wasnt the point i was trying to make. Yeah you can get it done but cost and time? 6k for a junk yard engine installed vs 32k for a diesel in a truck that cost 40k new? factor in time and paying for a rental by day?

 

What is the 10k in ecoboost cam phaser fixes? The only person I know who had to have the cam phasers done paid 1500 out of the 3000 bill ford covered the rest. It sounded like a diesel on startup.

 

I haven't looked at it since early 2021 right before mine started the rattle. Most posts were for 2020 fixes when covid lock downs were everywhere and getting an oil change at the dealer could take all day. The $10k was based on the posts I was reading at the time on the F150 forums which quite a few were quoting that price. They were also saying 4 weeks in the shop or more. Cost of parts at that time was probably driving a big chunk of the total cost. From what I'm reading on the F150 forums today (got curious after your post), they have the job down to about 3 or 4 days and no where near the 10K price tag. Most now posting around $800 to $3K depending on miles. I know the body got lifted off the F150, everything on the front of the engine is removed and often the water pump is replaced even if it doesn't need it due to the cost of the pump, and the top of the engine completely removed to get at the cams. Sounds like they fixed whatever was causing that huge repair bill (part supply lines maybe).

Looks like Ford has changed the prorating again. My letter from Ford had the prorating starting at 6k and ending at 69k taking 20% off for every 2k miles Looks like they changed it to up to 69,999 100% covered, 70,000 - 79,999 66% covered, 80,000 - 8,9999 33% covered and 90,000+ not covered. They also stopped doing the ECU reprogramming due to shudder in the transmissions.

 

This thread got me thinking
Occasionally if I’m going uphill a little and drive like a grandpa and don’t give enough throttle and the truck does the shift to the highest gear nonsense, I’ll get tapping like the engine was bogged for a second or two…..
Oil is near top of the two dots on dip stick and is fresh syn oil…
Hoping that my truck isn’t going out … silly thing only has 30k ok it

 

That's just pinging and knocking I'd bet. My truck does it as well, it's even in the manual.