Airbox elbow mod question

So I want to do the elbow mod as I’m not going off-roading and won’t be doing any water crossings. I read through the write-up and I still have questions. My airbox is different than in the write-up, it’s a stock ‘03, there’s significantly more room between the airbox and the inside of the fender. Is removing this elbow still going to help? It seems like it would just let in hot air from the engine bay given the position of the airbox. Or am I just misreading the write-up and the elbow is inside the fender?

 

Never heard of anyone removing that. Just leave it and do the deck plate mod

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/elbow-mod-with-pictures.175856/

Thread on the write-up for the mod.

http://www.gadgetonline.com/AirInduction.htm#Modified Air Box

this article talks about both and how they’re the same increase in performance regardless of which you do. As I said, I’m not doing the deck plate mod as I’m not off-roaring or doing water crossings. I’m not going to modify my airbox for that reason. The elbow removal allows for it to be converted back stock if necessary.

 

Oh that's right, I remember that page now..
So if +2HP is "the same" as +4HP, then the +2HP must mean it's the same as the stock box, right? And therefore not worth doing?

BTW those gains are also for the 3.4L with a SC, which needs more air and therefore a filter of the same size would have more restriction. Basically you're inquiring about a 1HP gain here...

 

Are you supercharged?
Those test were done with a 3.4 supercharged engine.

I see you have a 2.7.

Hard to believe you’ll be pulling enough air in a stock 2.7 to make it worth it?

Do as you want. But you may not be helping anything.

 

A gain is a gain and if I’m not modifying anything, just removing a pipe that can be replaced easily, then why wouldn’t it be worth it? Also, in the article he said it would work just as well in a 2.7 and in the write-up I linked there was a reply from someone with a 2.7 that said they got mirrored results… not sure why you’re all so up in arms about this. None of you have even tried to answer the question I have and instead try to tell me to do the mod I said I don’t want or need to do, and then don’t even try to be helpful at all and talk trash about it. Seriously, I come to these forums for help, not to be talked down to.

 

Sorry you feel like I was talking down to you.
I wasn’t. I personally don’t care for doing things that don’t have a benefit.
If you say it will benefit you, you should do it.

Pull that elbow off and drive it

 

Cold air is always better than warm air. Removing that elbow will do nothing but make you suck warm under hood air vs cold air high up in the fender(there is more ducting in the fender). You’re not changing the inlet size into the airbox by removing that so it is not likely that you’ll be getting any more airflow thus not making any gains. 2hp on a dyno is negligible and within the margin of error so it’s really nothing.

 

That’s what I was thinking, but I’m not sure if the elbow I’m supposed to remove is inside the fender or the one in my picture. The one coming off the airbox isn’t really a 90’ elbow, maybe it’s the one in the fender that’s the 90’ elbow?

 

I don’t know that it would make any difference, but the one in the fender definitely is a 90 at that point. And then runs about halfway down the fender towards the rear

 

Hmm, ok. The 90’ elbow is the one that’s supposed to come out, the one in my picture would stay in, which means air would still be coming in from the fender, not from the engine bay. The whole reason to take it out is because the 90’ is restricting air flow.

 

On my 3.4 I pulled the elbow out of the fender, but left the short airbox-to-fenderwall pipe intact. It draws only fresh outside air and zero engine bay air.