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What Have You Done To Your 2nd Gen Tacoma Today?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by kwalton, Feb 2, 2008.

  1. Dec 1, 2013 at 11:31 AM
    saltus25

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    Yup they are mickey T baja claw's. 285/75/16
     
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    Not sure. You can expect some severe forces while off-roading. I imagine you could go to 150 ft-lbs without damaging the balljoint or UCA. I'd call LR to confirm.

    It's certainly going to change them. To determine how much involves some serious trigonometry. Might as well get it realigned after messing with them anyway.

    Passed you the other day. Trucks coming right along!

    I'm very happy with them. What a huge improvement over stock.
     
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    Go on the SPC site , there are install instructions
     
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    Don't they just tip the knuckles forward a tad more. Doing it that way rather than via the cam tabs, wouldn't affect it much at all I wouldn't think. I could see camber being affected ever so slightly if it tilts the tire in or out making the change. Not sure about toe though.
     
  6. Dec 1, 2013 at 12:52 PM
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    I'm not sure why you go with a total of +4* caster change. This is what the "A" position will give you. Additionally you will lose around 1" of clearance to the rear of your tire, in the wheel well. This change to "A" position won't affect Toe & Camber that much; but will change your Caster to 1.2* - your truck will be squirrely. 2 hands on the steering wheel at all times!!!

    SPC LR says nuetral position on the ball joint is "D" for a total of +2* Caster. I went with position "E" which is +1.0*. This moved my wheel center forward more than 1" and allowed me to run 285/70-17 tires without having to do a cab mount chop. I was able to achieve 2.2* of caster with this setup. Holding the steering steady is manageable.
     
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    Oh yeah? Where do you live? It must have been on rt 1 since i dont go anywhere else. Haha
     
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    Switched over my winter tires which are mounted on rims - gotta keep my lovely wife out of a pile-up on the highway.
     
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    So after I installed my ORI's and filled them up to the ride height I wanted, I took it to the shop to have it aligned. I'd have to double check but I am pretty sure I have them both set in the C position and using only the cam tabs the tech set the caster to 2.2* on both sides on the alignment rack. So given that I would assume changing them to the A position should move my overall caster to 3.2* and give me more room at the back of the wheel well.

    Am I incorrect there?
     
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    LOL, I didn't say it would change everything much, just that moving the top of the spindle will have an effect on the other two numbers.
    You mighta been coming out of PNSY or it coulda been in Portsmouth, can't recall exactly.
     
  13. Dec 1, 2013 at 1:32 PM
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    I know it will have some affect, I was just curious if it would be a noticeable change in drive/ride on camber and toe.
     
  14. Dec 1, 2013 at 1:36 PM
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    I just looked at the SPC install sheet for our LR UCAs. You are correct on the amount of caster increase. I was mistaken on the 1.2* comment above. LOL. I just woke up from my night shift - got home @4AM. :smack:

    Going from "C" to "A" rolls the balljoint rearward (hence the increase in caster), but this is why you would lose clearance. If you look at the bottom of the sheet, you will see what I mean.

    If you are wanting around 3* of caster, you could go to "D" position and still achieve this, while increasing rear clearance. (When I first installed mine, I was setup at "D" and had rolled my lower cams all of the way forward. The first reading was 3.8*)
     
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    bjmoose gives a great write up about this. I'll find it and post a link here….
     
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    I don't plan on touching anything but the caster adjustment on the UCA though. So changing it to the D position would drop me to 1.2* of caster. I was under the impression that higher positive caster gave you more rear wheel well clearance:confused:
     
  19. Dec 1, 2013 at 1:50 PM
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    If you move the upper pivot point of the spindle rearward, you increase caster and lose clearance.

    If you move the lower pivot point of the spindle forward, you also increase caster and gain some clearance.

    So it depends on how you are increasing caster. If you are using the LCA cams to increase caster, then you will increase clearance.

    But if you are increasing caster by a LR UCA adjustment, then you will reduce clearance.

    I hope this helps. It is very confusing. bjmoose's writeup was very helpful for me.
     
  20. Dec 1, 2013 at 2:14 PM
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    Go ya! I am found. It isnt just that increasing increases caster increases clearance but the way you increase caster. Hmm... so I should have set them to D and asked for 3* of caster to maximize clearance.
     

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