Outlet in bed

What? You don't?

 

My hot tub used a 100A, 240V ground fault circuit breaker. Nice looking panel. Most are not labelled nearly that well. When we bought our house nothing was labelled. Spent a afternoon on it, got it figured out.

 

Yeah, that is the panel I had put in last year in my 50 year old house. Had a Fed. Pacific Stab-lok which was supposedly dangerous/failed to trip.

The labels are actually not that good. They were done in a rush by the installers because I told them I was going to create a detailed circuit map, but they were required to label the box. My circuit map is created keyed to the black sharpie numbers.

Notice all the breakers tied together - a lot of shared neutrals in this old place.

 

Another nugget of info about inverter and max wattage - http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/6...02181-2007-tacoma-inverter-modifications.html


I haven't seen a "Bible on Inverters" thread anywhere, but it seems like the consensus is 800-1000W. Theoretically one could slap maybe a 1500 watt inverter on, but realistically the DC systems on any truck can't handle more than 800W, maybe a max of 1000W.

 

Kitchen circuits are still current limited at 15A. How the receptacle is wired is different, in that each duplex receptacle has two individual 15A circuits available in the same duplex receptacle. A typical home outlet is known as a duplex receptacle, as there are two places to plug something in. On a kitchen duplex receptacle, the internal tab that connects the top half of the receptacle to the bottom half is removed, and each outlet is on its own 15A circuit, so you can have 2 appliances plugged into the same receptacle, and each able to receive upto 15 amps current.

That said, the top half of one kitchen receptacle is typically shared with the top half of another receptacle in the kitchen, but iirc a kitchen circuit has a max of two outlets on one 15Amp circuit.

 

Not around here. Code requires 20amp in the kitchen.

 

20A and ground fault too. Which might not be a bad idea on a bed receptacle if anything might be wet around there.

 

Yup, you're right. My experience is seriously outdated. 20Amp single circuit GFCI protected for outlets within 1.5m of sink. looks like folks don't use the split outlet method anymore. I found that method very useful in a shop.

 

Same here now

 

Yeah I was posting someone else's comment, I'm just going with an 800w I don't need to run a microwave or welder, a laptop and a phone charging is all I ever do.

 

That does not meet code. And all kitchen outlets must be GFI protected.

 

In Florida all receptacle circuits in a home are required to have arc-fault breakers (AFCI)

For a while it was just bedrooms, now all receptacle circuits
And those are not inexpensive

Is this regional? Or part of the national electric code?

 

Oh...

And the tacoma bed receptive is still crap.

 

That is the nec now. Just depends if it has been adopted in a particular jurisdiction

 

I'd like to get an 800W, or even a 1000W to replace the 425W aftermarket I have. I'd like to plug some more devices in if possible. I DO KNOW the 425W running at full capacity can drain the 27F battery, but it takes about 10 hours (non-scientifical observation, only happened once to me). Running the motor for apx 15 minutes at idle every four hours has kept it charged up since that one discharge.


I was perusing some threads here:


http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2n...ra-800-watt-inverter-install-thread-pics.html


http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/294804-power-inverter-cobra-1500w.html


I see from those and here: http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm


that the 6AWG I ran from the battery can handle up to 101 amps.


425W draws 36A
800W draws 66A
1000W draws 83A
1200W draws 100A
1500W draws 125A


So as discussed above, 800W is probably the largest size for a stock 12V electrical system application, and even then you'd want the 27F battery and 130A alternator from the factory tow package.


Anything larger than 800W folks would probably need dual-batteries and run a 4AWG (135A) from the battery connections.


Trying to go larger than 1000W one may as well buy a small generator. I bought a Champion 2000W (peak) inverter generator for $650 and it's a nice little focker. I run it for an hour in the morning and an hour at night to charge up the dual Interstate deepcycle 27 batteries on the trailer. Takes about a 1/4 gallon a day to do that. 65 lbs or so, quiet.

 

Good stuff there.
Thanks.

 

It's pretty much useless still most of the time. I ran an electric fillet knife off it while up in Erie this year. That ran fine.

 

Welcome. And oh yeah I didn't mention that these "inverter generators" like the Champion, Honda, Yamaha, etc they produce the pure sine wave AC needed by many electronics to work properly.


A DC/AC inverter that runs off the truck, if you want a pure sine wave one, it's about $300-$400 for a 1000W.

 

Eh, it's useful. Let's say you have battery-operated tools (drills, sawzall, whatever) you can recharge the batteries off of it and viola you have power tools at your disposal. Or if you have rechargeable batteries for your flashlights, etc. It gives you some versatility you absolutely would not have without it.

 

The Tacoma bes outlet is useful. I mean I have made smoothies and coffee in the back of my truck and I plan on using this summer when I go camping. If you need more power then just put a generator in your bed and you will be good or do the inverter mod.