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are BFgoodrich All terrains "old school"?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by aficianado, Feb 14, 2014.

  1. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:18 PM
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    Brodie

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    and the a for mentioned BFG KO ATs.

    Best all around tire... the Fun Country IIs.

    Im not trying to sound like a know it all, just have more off and on road driving with AT tars... then I care to admit.

    You can pick a lot worse than BFG ATs.
     
  2. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:20 PM
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    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    Ive been off roading longer than you have been alive, judging by your postings. Like I said....I used to think the BFG's were the best tire on this rock. Until I tried others, and realized they don't have the traction other AT's offer. After trying 10 or so sets of different AT's, I realized the BFG's are only better than the OEM tires, and are at the bottom of the current generation of AT's available.
     
  3. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:26 PM
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    Doubtful, The first tires I bought for my 1972 Blazer were Ground Hawg bias ply.
     
  4. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:27 PM
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    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

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    :thumbsup:
     
  5. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:40 PM
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    :)

    Old School and Im not sure Old School is cool. ;)

    Anyway, this is the only lasting pic I have of that old Blazer...

    72Blazer_777d5a16d7e1cf2d7da0df74023a3ec487837521.jpg

    The day I bought it $3Gs All I had in the Bank account.

    Ended up with a total 6 inch total lift and 38s. Sorry no Pics :( I've looked long and hard for them.

    :cheers:
     
  6. Feb 16, 2014 at 8:49 PM
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    I don't think that's what anyone is saying. I won't pull that whole "read it as many times as it takes" thing. I believe what most everyone has said is that there are much better choices out there, usually for significantly less money.

    I'm sure there are worse, we can start with the Dunflops that come stock and then step up to the rugged fails. BFG AT's are somewhere above those and below most new gen AT's.
     
  7. Feb 16, 2014 at 9:01 PM
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    I agree, my objection was to those who said BFG ATs Suck... If you didnt post that then I'm not sure what your consternation is??? :confused:

    My opinion is that they do not suck.

    Can you buy cheaper quality AT tires with the same level of performance? Yes

    But that doesn't mean the BFG ATs Suck. Given the right driving style matched to the conditions and they will get you where you need to go.
     
  8. Feb 17, 2014 at 6:55 AM
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    count me as old school...

    I have had BFG AT on the following:

    97 suburban
    2001 1500 HD
    2007 F250 diesel
    2013 Tacoma

    I prob have 200k miles on BFG's.

    Pros-
    Look good, last a long time
    Cons- heavy, stiff riding

    I recently drove all over in white out conditions during the last snow storm. Truck handled absolutely amazing. I love the tires, and wouldn't trade them for the world.

    If i ever sold my Tacoma, I would put my tires on Craigslist and get good money for em.
     
  9. Feb 17, 2014 at 7:48 AM
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    Fixed.
     
  10. Feb 17, 2014 at 8:22 AM
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    And a much better AT alternative:
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/wh...r-discoverer-st-maxx-tires-3.html#post8187976


    Ive had BFG KO's, Dick Cepeks, Mickey Thompson ATZ's and so on, not just my Tacoma but many 4x4 's over the years.

    So far I am extremely happy with the Coopers, on road handling is amazing, very quiet tire, In the sand the best AT I have owned, climbing in Rocky/mud trails is amazing, in the rain they sipp the water very well and fell great in wet conditions, I haven't had a chance to put them in the mud or snow, it hardly rains out here..LOL
    Price was very good @ 219 each 285/75-16
     
  11. Feb 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM
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    This is the same story that a lot of people tell. I don't doubt you've had good luck with them. They're not a terrible tire, just greatly overpriced and not as good as others now available.

    My experience is that for the first 10-15k miles they are great tires, sticky as hell. Past 15k they turn hard and slowly become useless, don't clean themselves and don't grip. I went up in the mountains Saturday on my Hankook's with over 40k miles on them, still great tread and full factory siping. I didn't have a single issue, posted a video of me pulling out a 3500 Chevy. Conditions were mostly 6-12" of snow over Ice, or slush depending on elevation. I'm on pace to get 60k out of mine and for all 4 they were >$200.00 cheaper than BFG AT's.

    I don't mud my truck so most of my experience is from mountain trails or cold stuff. IE: Loose gravel steep inclines, deep snow, ice, slush etc. In any of these situations they're just no good.
     
  12. Feb 17, 2014 at 8:25 AM
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    I've been looking hard at the Cooper ST MAXX's for my next set .. just so expensive.
     
  13. Feb 17, 2014 at 8:28 AM
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    they were cheaper then my Mickey Thompson ATZ's
     
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    how much are the cooper st vs BFG?
     
  15. Feb 17, 2014 at 8:39 AM
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    That's what I am leaning towards, but I can't find a local store that can get them. I am skeptical of ordering online in case I have issues with one (such as balancing) or need to replace one.
     
  17. Feb 17, 2014 at 9:02 AM
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    I haven't looked recently but I think around $20 more per tire than the BFG AT's.

    Edit: NM, thanks for the links. They look to be pretty similar now..
     
  18. Feb 17, 2014 at 10:16 AM
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    The AT's I have used are BFG's, Toyo Open Country, Goodyear Wranglers, Nitto Tera Grapplers, Cooper SST's?, and some Kelly whatever's. I personally think the BFG AT's are the best all around all terrian tire I have ever used and it is not even close. On the 3 sets I have had I got 75K+ miles out them them. No other AT has come close. I thought the Toyo Open Country AT's performed better on the street, in rain and snow but their sidewalls are terribly weak. I had 3 sidewall punctures out of my set of 4 including a stick no bigger then a pencil. I was terrible disappointed in the sidewall strength. If I was to buy an AT tire the was stricly for the road with maybe a few graded dirt roads mixed in, then Toyo's would be my choice. I had some Kelly's and some Coppers but they both wore incredibly fast Kelly's lasted 30K and the Coopers lasted about 40K). My Goodyear Wrangler AT's were terribly loud on the road and sucked the most gas mileage. Why, I don't know, maybe the weight. My Nitto Tera Grapplers wore out in 35K and I wasn't too happy with the grip offroading. BFG AT's aren't the best in the mud or snow but they do a good enough job. They lose some grip when they wear also but so does every tire. I will take a tire that last 75K over any other tire for the tradeoffs. I drive 20k+ a year though. If I didn't drive as much then i would definitely consider a different tire. Until then, it will only be BFG AT's for me. Most of my offraoding is here in the Southern California desert with some High Sierra 'backroads' mixed in.
     
  19. Mar 31, 2014 at 10:26 AM
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    I'm also waiting to replace my stock Dunlops but they are wearing fine and no road noise so not in that big of a hurry. I've had the BFG AT's on my '03 DCSB and also my '05 F-150 screw. Zero complaints.

    I switched to 16" Duratracs on my '08 Pathfinder 4x4 and although they look great and drive fine, there is considerable noise on pavement.

    Not sure what I'll go with on the '14 DCLB yet but I will likely stay with the stock steel wheels. I just like the look better than alloys... and the grey/silver finish matches my dark silver truck pretty much.:confused:
     
  20. Mar 31, 2014 at 10:31 AM
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    I don't use the BFG AT/KO's anymore, but I still think they're a great all-around AT and perform well on the road too. I have Kelly Safari TSRs now because I think they're better in snow and ice.
     

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