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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. May 16, 2014 at 4:43 PM
    4runnercaged

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    a BS thread is the best way, just make sure you got the right one :)
    this one is long travel (high speed prerunners mostly)


    and this one is what you want, solid axle swaps.
    http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/solid-axle-suspension/205596-solid-axle-swap-bs-thread.html
     
  2. May 16, 2014 at 7:12 PM
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    Hoping to get a quick answer... anybody know the torque value for the shaft nut (shim cap nut) on a king shock? doing a re-valve and forgot what to torque it to... I know it's said snug is good but wondering if there is a value to it? I know to use a dot of red loc-tite :D
     
  3. May 16, 2014 at 7:16 PM
    SconnieHailer

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    That's what i recall too but wasn't sure if there was a lb/ft value to it? just cant remember what i did last time.... but i want to repeat what I did last time cuz it worked fine. suppose i should ask myself ha
     
  4. May 16, 2014 at 7:22 PM
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    Just snug it on with a dot of red and you'll be good.
     
  5. May 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM
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    Word. Thanks guys! Stiffning my shit up a bit in the rear, the addition of the tent for summer really showed me how poorly i was valved for the weight haha.
     
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    It's 35ft.lbs. proper torque of that nut is important. If you do a revalve and have a different torque everytime you might not be getting the fully effect of the revalve due to the clamping force on the shims
     
  7. May 16, 2014 at 8:13 PM
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    Oh and yes to the lock tite for kings too since it isn't a lock nut
     
  8. May 16, 2014 at 9:27 PM
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    So that is for added strength to the subframe I take it? I'm not planning on hucking my truck. But that seems like a good idea. For a just in case sort of scenario. I think I'll get the heimed uca's with plans to do that in the future.

    What about the heimed steering? And if everything is heimed how will that feel on the street as opposed to regular bushings and non solid mounted lca? I'm guessing a harsher ride on road but a more controlled ride off road.
     
  9. May 16, 2014 at 9:40 PM
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    Even with fairly mild beating you can fuck up the subframe. As far as street driving the heimed upper and steering change very little.
     
  10. May 16, 2014 at 10:21 PM
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    Well, sumbich, just got back in from finishing up a while ago... I snugged em with the mechanics hand touch and a dab of red loc. Whatevs, gonna be fine.
     
  11. May 16, 2014 at 10:31 PM
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    Don't sweat it. I use the German torque wrench on mine.... Goodntight
     
  12. May 16, 2014 at 10:36 PM
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    haha, thanks Landon. I dont re-valve often and this time was a big enough change i wont have a problem distinguishing the change...
     
  13. May 16, 2014 at 11:14 PM
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    No problem man. If you are running a rate plate and a fulcrum shim which I'm sure you are you would need to change the torque a ton to change the valving at all. People underestimate the hydraulic pressure a shock puts on the shims.
     
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    I know i've got a rate plate in there just not sure what size it is (should have got the caliper on it tonight now that i think of it...) It was standard build when i ordered the shocks for the rear setup i'm running.

    I went from:

    Reb: straight 8 stack
    Comp: 12,8,12,12,12,12

    to this:

    Reb:
    10,10,12,12,12
    Comp:
    12,12,8,15,15,15,15
     
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    Smooth bodies or bypasses?
    Assuming you are leaf sprung, you are gonna hate that rebound valving. The leaf spring bushings already dampen the suspension movement and the Toyota rear ends are not that heavy. Better off with a strait stack of 8's on rebound or you'll likely start packing.

    On your compression, are the first two a double shim and the third a flutter?
     
  17. May 17, 2014 at 10:30 AM
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    I had a straight 8 like we talked about Jason on rebound but was not cutting it... Talked with Tyler Pelfrey about how DSM valved his since it's the same setup and same weight roughly. We'll see how it goes but i've just accepted there's no cookie cutter and am feeling it out and adjusting it for me.

    The first two on comp are not double stacked. Actual specs for comp:

    1.45: x .012
    1.30: x .012
    .850: x .008
    1.30: x .015
    1.15: x .015
    1.00: x .015
    .850: x .015
     
  18. May 17, 2014 at 12:25 PM
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    Thanks, I plated all the way around the mounts, front and rear ones and tied the fronts together. Also tied the fronts to the rear and made skidplate mounts off them as well. I didn't actually plate the entire cross member though. I did fix the lowers and the alignment is done on the uppers. Pros and cons to this IMO but it's the direction I went...

    Not a finished shot and some things changed but you get the idea...

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  19. May 17, 2014 at 2:05 PM
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    I did a little digging through here about alignment of long travel, and just wanted to double check the specs of what my front end is at. We couldn't get the caster any better but it seems to ride alright. Will having the caster where it is at cause any problems on the trails?

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  20. May 17, 2014 at 2:35 PM
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    Gotcha. Curious tho, what about the rebound was not cutting it? Or was it the valving in general. I just don't quite understand why you are trying to slow down the rebound.

    If there's one thing I've learned from the shock gurus (TC Yota) is to avoid changing multiple things at once. I'd try just changing the compression valving first to see if that addresses the problem you are having. At the end of the valving is somewhat subjective, but there is some science to it.
     

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