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Front bearing and hub search?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 06prerunner, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Oct 18, 2011 at 4:46 AM
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    I have a bad front bearing on my 06 Prerunner DC and can;t seem to find the whole hub assy(spindle and bearing together). With all these going bad I would have thought that someone would have come out with one. Any info would be great. Finding the bearing is no problem, $40-50 on ebay, but the hub is a hard one to find. Thanks in advance...
     
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  2. Oct 18, 2011 at 5:57 AM
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    At one time didn't some one in this forum sell complete hub assy for tachomas, If not mistaken he had pictures of his units, if he is still in business would like to talk with him and order a complete assy thanks
     
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    Yeah there was a member selling them here.

    I found one listed in the past on the internet but it was like 200 bucks.

    I just bought a lifetime warranty bearing from the shitty parts store, and had it pressed for 20 bucks.

    In the end it cost me about $60 the first time, and 20-30 each time after that if I remember right. The process is pretty easy.

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  6. Feb 15, 2015 at 7:39 AM
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    The process is not impossible. It is just difficult, and time consuming for many people. Being able to buy my assemblies ready to bolt in save people a lot of time and hassle. Glad to hear you got everything fixed back then.
     
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    Yes for anyone without experience doing it before it can be a pain.

    The process is the same though for a pre assembled unit as it is having the new bearing pressed. There is only the additional step of taking the unitized hub to someone who can press the bearing for you.

    I agree, since this disposable bearing BS came about on little cars like my old civic there are usually cheap assemblies with or without a core available. And that makes life easier.

    The whole idea of a non serviceable bearing on a "off road" vehicle is stupid. I wish there was a lockout/free wheeling hub mod with traditional spindles and wheel bearings that I could clean and re-grease :)

    Also, that truck is taken farther apart than someone will have to do, I was doing a bunch of things at once.

    And its a good idea if you buy a replacement to get the lifetime warranty one, they are seriously a weak point off road.
     
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    Funny thing is back when I was doing serious off-roading in older toyotas with regular serviceable bearings I NEVER had to replace any. And I barely ever serviced them either. I've had 4 first gen tacomas, never put a bearing in one of those either. I did put one in the 3rd gen 4Runner I had but I was chasing a noise and that wasn't the issue. I'm on my 3rd 2nd gen tacoma now and I've put bearings in all 3. Last time around was about a month ago. I have a press and can do these pretty quick but this time around I bought a hub and the bolts and basically built an assembly like Bamatoy sells. Took no time at all to put it in. I swapped the rear seal on the back of the spindle too. The only way I have been able to press the hubs out of the bearing in the past is to remove the whole spindle and brace it in the press. Which is kind of sketchy.
     
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    I agree completely with the old school being better here. I have had a few fail from abuse over the years. But even without proper care the older style had grease etc and would outlast the new ones.

    It is a PITA.
     
  10. Feb 15, 2015 at 9:13 AM
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    Damn how many times did you had to replace those ?
     
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    3 times drivers front, and I think twice on the passenger front.

    throwout bearing 3 times, did the clutch at the same time since I was in there

    broke a CV axel, and the front diff

    alternator twice

    engine once

    ABS broke, I never fixed it

    TPMS never worked (wheel sensors were gone when I got it)

    bunch of other little things. I was very hard on that 2008, it was a good truck but I expected it to be as good as all my old Toyota trucks. Which it never was in the durability aspect.

    It was my first 2nd gen Tacoma. While it was a good truck, there are things they do on modern trucks that are not as good as old trucks. Like those BS wheel bearings.

    If they would have stuck the front axel out of the FJZ80 like that concept they had back in 08 it would have been great!
     
  12. Feb 15, 2015 at 9:37 AM
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    Holy crap thats a lot of bearings and other parts.
    I did bearings once but realized I could have gone further if I had tighten them at 30 k intervals. Factory ones suck but not only they have plastic cages they have no grease in them. If you pack new ones with somethign like Mobil 1 grease and re tighten them at 30 k or whenever you feel they gettign lose they should do much better.
     
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    The problem I had was they are sealed bearings that are pressed in the hub now, with the spindle pressed in the bearing. The same setup as my old civic had. They don't have any way to service or tighten them like on an old truck :/ and with the sealed cage I get whatever grease there is stock.

    The only plus side of the new design is that there is no damage to the hub parts when the bearing fails, vs an old truck if the bearing failed it could ruin the spindle.
     
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    You can not service them but you can put better and more grease when installing them. Also you can re tighten them afterwards. On 4x4 axle nut is what keeps preload on the bearings. Once you pack them with grease and install them just re tighten them after first 500 miles. Than whenever feels they getting loose or 20-30k miles.
     
  16. Feb 15, 2015 at 2:41 PM
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    You are right about the initial grease, I re-read how I wrote it.

    You can use the grease you want in the bearing initially, but once its pressed on there is no serviceability or way to clean out grime and add fresh grease.

    I don't believe there is any preload that the axel nut on a second gen could provide or change, not like before. It pretty much just holds the stub of you cv shaft in place, and keeps it tight for the "seal" on the back side.

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    ^^this is the bearing if you buy just the bearing

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    ^^ this is the entire assembly, the hub with the splines is pressed into the bearing that is pressed into the bearing flange.

    And like magic. The evil that is called a unitized hub bearing.. FML.
     
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    I forgot the other two.

    just figure putting pictures of the parts together could help anyone who does not know.

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    ^^ this is the stub where your cv splines are held in and drive you wheel, this gets pressed in the bearing.

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    ^^ this is the bearing flange with the bearing pressed in. Autozone has them over the counter like this.
     
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    Yeah once is installed than its done deal but before install I sugest filling out to the brink with grease.
    Also the axle nut is what holds preload. When cv seats inside the bearing and you tighten the axle nut, the CV is clamping bearing together. As long as you have what Toyota calls for torque on that axle nut thats will get the right preload. In older trucks you would use fish scale and such. On this one you need to have whatever Toyota asks for torque. Thats why I believe setup needs readjusting after first 500 miles of usage. I replaced once on my truck and few times for other people. Every time I did 500 mile check torque adjustment was needed just like on Toyota solid axles with serviceable bearings.
     

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