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Galvanized hardware is required where the deck meets its foundation and where it attaches to the house because it is weather resistant. They city doesn't want this critical hardware rusting away after a couple years and your deck collapsing. I wouldn't be surprised if they had requirements to have treated wood in these areas as well. As others have said, it should be no problem to use deck screws to attach the deck surface to the deck frame/support.

 

Common screws have no shear value and are not suitable for framing , I don't care what Mike Holmes thinks

With ACQ pressure treated framing , in our area , we are required to use stainless steel bolts , hangers and saddles on decks that are constantly re-wetted ( skip decking ) because it has been found that even the ZMax HD Galvanized hangers get eaten by the ACQ formulation

 

Were still on galvanized here no stainless steel yet. Seen a lot of lumber failures in stuff built around 05

 

Thanks for all the replies guys.

I will be using stainless steel hidden fasteners to secure the deck surface.

But as far as framing, my deck will be free standing, not attached to the house. So where my floor joists sit on the beams I will be using hurricane ties. Where the rim joists attach to the ends of the floor joists I was planning on running 3" deck mate decking screws from the rim joist to the end of the floor joists.

Hopefully I'll be able to talk to the inspector this week and get some clarification on what he requires.

 

No. First how big is the deck? What's its location. Why not attached to the home. Stop trying to screw the frame together. No hurricane straps unless code requires them. And use hangers.

 

Don't use common ( non rated ) screws for framing

 

Ever build any paneling out of MDF oz?

 

Yes , but I really dislike working with MDF

 

I want to do painted raised panels in my office. I've worked with MDF and the like a lot but only as a substrate never shaping and painting. Any other suggestions?

 

Shapes nicely , holds a crisp edge . I've had good results doing glued build ups as well .

 

Layout a grid on your wall , pin the panels in place and glue on a rail and stile overlay , joints are very forgiving if you need to true up with sanding prior to painting . Spraying in place is the best finish

 

Should be interesting. Its on my list to finish the office and build a mirror for the gfs bday in august.

 

I'm to cheap for that.... I'd love to do some really crazy work in this house but I have to keep it in the right price point for when I sell it.

 

Got the final handrail glued up tonight after the hockey game

 

Waiting for the railing grand reveal. Hurry up oz...

Pulled the no 5 out of the evaporust. And managed to get most of it back into the bottle..

 

No what?

It's 12'x16' on one level then one step down to a 12'x6.5' lower level next to the hot tub. It will be in my backyard... Not sure what you're looking for by asking the location?

It's going to be free standing because my house is built out of cinderblocks and (atleast here) you can't attach a ledger board to hollow block.

"Stop trying to screw the frame together"... Can you help me understand why instead of just telling me not to do it?

What do you suggest instead of hurricane ties? Just toe nail the joists onto the beams?

Are you saying use hangers for the joists? I can understand how to use them for the inner joists but what about the rim joists where the outside edges need to be flush?

 

Don't use screws for framing , they have no shear value

 

So is the deck on the ground or above? Your going to need actual timber in the corners ei a 6x6. So the hurican straps are pointless.

You can screw framing together while your building to tack things in place, but using them for the framing on a free standing deck is wrong. Remember this nails bend screws break. Hangers hanger hangers. Your outside board is going to have something in the corners that 6x we talked about will be there. And why can you not attach a ledger board to hollow block? That's done all the time. Tapcons and about 100+ fasteners achieve that easily.

 

Ok thanks

Deck is 40" above grade at highest point. Maybe 12" above at lowest point.
The 6x6's in the corner sounds like a good idea. Carriage bolted I assume?
Don't know why you're saying the hurricane straps are useless, my understanding is that they are a metal piece that attaches the joists to the beam they are sitting on. Is that what you're talking about? And again, what would you suggest for making this connection if not straps? Just toe nailing them?
Glad to hear I can use screws to hold it all together and then go along and add the appropriate fasteners. Sounds much easier than nailing it all from the start and then if a measurement is off, having to pull nails back out.
And just to be clear about where I was planning on using screws, I don't see how shear value affects it, everything is supported by the beams. The screws were just going to hold the rim joists to the floor joists. Not as important a connection as say attaching to a ledger board, where shear strength is everything.

Most of what I've read from google searches says you can't attach a ledger to brick vaneer or hollow block. There are adhesives that can be used but apparently they are expensive. I don't see a problem with freestanding at the height I'm going to be building it. So I'm fine with just doing that.

Thanks for the help guys. When I get a chance I'll post some pictures of what I have drawn up.

Btw I'm going to be applying for the permit this week, so the building inspector has to ok it before I do anything, and I'll have all the proper inspections along the way.

 

One bit of info about attaching a ledger to hollow block-

Yes, there are products available for anchoring a ledger board to hollow concrete block foundations (concrete masonry unit, CMU). There are a handful of manufacturers that produce epoxy and other adhesive anchors that are tested for use in hollow CMU. These adhesive fasteners must be installed in strict compliance with the manufacturer’s installation instructions. Generally these fasteners will provide much lower load resistance than those connecting to solid concrete. Be careful to install a sufficient amount of fasteners based on the loads generated by the deck design. The fasteners must be approved for a wet-use, exterior environment and must provide appropriate corrosion protection.

https://www.decks.com/deckbuilding/can-I-attach-a-deck-to-hollow-block