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How many of you have brake pad slap?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by js312, May 22, 2015.

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Do you have brake pad slap?

  1. Yes

    124 vote(s)
    79.5%
  2. No

    32 vote(s)
    20.5%
  1. May 23, 2015 at 7:34 AM
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    js312

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    See post 6.
     
  2. May 23, 2015 at 7:36 AM
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    I voted no^
     
  3. May 23, 2015 at 7:38 AM
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  4. May 23, 2015 at 7:40 AM
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    You've also got a 1st gen, so I expect your caliper design is different.
     
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  5. May 23, 2015 at 1:35 PM
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    its a Toyota truck and that's all the modifications needed
    :facepalm:
     
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  6. May 23, 2015 at 2:32 PM
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    I've got a set of those calipers on my Miata! Work Great!

    I have a 2013 Taco and, no, to the brake pad slap.
     
  7. May 23, 2015 at 8:11 PM
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    Mine did the exact same clacking noise when you applied the brakes. Sometimes so loud it would echo off a building close by. I took it into the local dealer and they said everything checked out ok. After their useless visit I decided to change the front pads. They were the original pads I had about 45 thousand miles at that time. Once I seen and looked at the old ones it was obvious the problem. They were what I called back in the day crystalized. I guess it's a combination of the pad type, heat and pressure but they we're hard as rock. Thus that is what makes the noise when they grab the rotor. Clack clack. Put on a new set of I think duralast gold and been quite ever since. The old pads still had quite a bit pad left but what pisses me off is why the mechanics didn't see or recognize the problem? They must be to young to ever heard of pads crystallizing before??
     
  8. May 24, 2015 at 9:29 AM
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    Oh, it is just the noise of the pads shifting in the calipers. My 2012 never had any noise...

    Never heard this called brake slap. Sounds stupid to me. Not you the term " Brake Slap ".
     
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  9. May 24, 2015 at 2:33 PM
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    It's more of a clank/click then a thud or bang. I have this issues. It has nothing to do with crystallized pads and everything to do with the pad shifting in the caliper after you apply breaks for the first time driving. Still looking for a fix. Bought extra springs but haven't installed them yet. 2009 AC v6 manual with 50k
     
  10. May 24, 2015 at 2:50 PM
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    If you don't have to hammer your brake pads in there is clearance if you go backwards the pads shift rear you go forward they shift front they "clunk" Do the brakes vibrate ? No. Do they squeal? No. Do they pull? No. Does the pedal feel good? Yes. Good brake job.
     
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  11. May 24, 2015 at 6:05 PM
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  12. May 25, 2015 at 7:21 AM
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    I wouldn't think they would do anything either, but it sounds like others have seen a change when adding a second one.
     
  13. May 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM
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    Yeah, they don't help for noise reduction.
     
  14. May 30, 2015 at 12:44 PM
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    I added the second clip and I see what others said. It's better (as in a little quieter and doesn't happen quite as much). The spring hooks to the pad and each one would push toward the center, so it's probably enough to keep it from hitting quite as hard.

    I dug around the other day and found a TSB that showed putting some special Toyota caliper lube on the edges of the pads to quiet it. Supposedly the stuff is much thicker than normal brake lube or anti-seize but I can't find a reasonable price on it--it's about $30-$40 for what looks like a small tube.

    I also noticed that the hole on my passenger's side pads for the slide pins is much larger than the pin. Not sure if the driver's side is like that too since I did it first and didn't look closely then. I wonder if that has something to do with it.
     
  15. Jun 6, 2015 at 4:20 PM
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    Per this TSB, I bought this grease and applied it. So far, so good. No noise whatsoever.

    I had been using Permatex Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant. This Toyota stuff is much different. It's the consistency, texture, and color of cold fluff (for those of you in the south who may not know what I'm talking about, I'm sorry. See here.). Sticky and everything.
     

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  16. Dec 9, 2015 at 7:12 PM
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    Mine just started doing this last week. I'm the second owner so I don't have a clue how many miles are on the pads.
     
  17. Dec 9, 2015 at 9:42 PM
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    I took my truck in thinking my pads were shifting because I was getting a clunk when I used the brakes. Turns out the slip yoke of the driveshaft was faulty and I got a new driveshaft for free from the warranty.
     
  18. Dec 10, 2015 at 4:58 PM
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    :)
     
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  19. Dec 10, 2015 at 5:30 PM
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    I had it and think I solved it for less than $10. It is from the two pins that hold the brake pads in the caliper. They get crusty and stick probably when the brake grease gets gunky with time and that is what causes the clunk or clank when you press the brakes. As the pads where down, there is more room for them to bang around. you can slap the pins back and forth in the caliper with your hand and make the noise. It is loud and very noticeable.

    Two choices, neither permanent, but either will work. 1) clean up your old pins with sandpaper or a wire brush and lube with Syl-Glide / brake grease ; or 2) replace the pins for like $4.00 each side and lube up. I cleaned and greased mine up a month ago when replacing the wheel bearings and not a peep since.

    You have to remove the tire, but it is a 10 min job and no way I am spending time sanding or wire brushing the pins and breathing brake dust, so I just replaced them for <$10. They were 6 years old so it was worth it. See the pics below.

    Pic of the pins, there is a cotter pin that has to be removed and they just slide out without you having to do anything else as long as you don't move the pads or anything other than pull the cotter pin and the pin itself. do not get brake grease anywhere but on the pin where it goes through the caliper and you will be fine.
    napa replacement pins part # on right. the left one is for the retainer clip thing and two cotter pins for the "disk brake caliper housing bolt"
     
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  20. Dec 10, 2015 at 5:33 PM
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    Mine did this up until I filled all the little nooks and crannies with mud. I assume it will return next time I service my front brakes.
     
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