Pro Comp UCA vs Total Chaos UCA

Pro Comp

Hey Guys, I have been wondering about these Pro Comp Upper Control Arms for a While now. Pro Comp is known for Manufacturing "Bro Truck" Style Lifts. Well Pro Comp has been Changing its pace for the past couple of years. They see that Customers don't just want a Lift that changes your looks. Individuals want a lift that can perform. With this as their new Engineering for front Pro-Comp has come out with some game changing products. So I decided to do some research and find out more on their UCA's.

This product shouldn't be looked over. Their New Upper Control arms are something that grabbed our attention.








These Control Arms are Made of Chromoly. And Not only that if you look at the finer Details this is not just Mig Welded. These Control arms are TIG Welded. This is the kind of Craftsmanship that you see on Trophy Trucks.

They come with Grease Zerk Fittings for Easy Servicing and Zink Hardware.

Now after Talking with one of the Main Managers with Pro Comp Manufacturing at SEMA, he brought out that the Joints in the Arms are an actual 1.00" FK Joint. Now to back it up Pro Comp also provides a nice Billet cap to cover your investment. He also added that these are Made in California and are made on a Laser Tub Cutting CNC. They then Powder Coat them Black.





With every Pro-Comp Lift they offer their 60,000 mile 5 Year Warranty

Pro Comp Part Number

• 57002B - 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma | 2003-2009 4Runner | 2007-2009 FJ Cruiser

Oh and did we mention that they are the cheapest Uniball Upper Control Arm on the Market.

Total Chaos

Total Chaos certainly has a name. We have many orders for this high quality product. They have been at it for quite some time. We find that sometimes the name is, well just a name. Name dropping when your with your buddy's on the trail is sometimes a status. Saying you have Total Chaos is one of those company's that makes your buddy's Jealous. But we found that Total Chaos Upper control arms have nothing more than other company's out there.


Total Chaos we all know is high quality. So its no surprise when we here that their components are Chromoly, standard with FK Uniballs and have added caster for better alignment. Total Chaos also has a history and many members have installed this product on their trucks and it is proven. Here are the specs below to look over.

• 4130 chromoly tubular upper control arms are 100% bolt on and hand crafted in the U.S.A.
• UCA's are designed with added caster to aid in retaining factory alignment specs when aftermarket lift kits are installed. This reduces the darting or wandering in the vehicle's steering when 2.5"-3" lift kits are installed.
• CNC machined tapered spindle adapters convert the factory ball joint to a 1" uniball for added component strength & maximum wheel travel.
• TOTAL CHAOS includes 1" I.D. uniballs that feature a heat treated stainless steel ball & heat treated stainless steel race for maximum corrosion resistance and component longevity. These uniball's also features a military grade PTFE woven fabric liner that helps prevent noise.
• Custom profile upper and lower hi-misalignment spacers maximize droop wheel travel and are machined from heat treated 17-4 stainless steel.
• Upper control arms combined with extended length coil over shocks will allow for up to 1" of additional wheel travel.
• Urethane bushings reduce bushing deflection compared to stock rubber bushings.
• Control arm pivots include zerk fittings to grease the urethane bushings & inner sleeves without disassembly.
• 2 stage powder coat process includes a durable clear coat to provide a long lasting finish.
• Complete grade 8 hardware kit is included.

Total Chaos Part Number

• 96504 : 2005-2015 Toyota Tacoma | 2003-2015 4Runner | 2007-2014 FJ Cruiser Uniball Upper Control Arms

The Conclusion

The first and main difference is how the UCA attaches to the Knuckle/Spindle. Total Chaos uses a Grade 8 Bolt you can get at any hardware store with a machined tapered adapter. This is nice if you have a problem you don't have to find a custom part if you break this bolt. The bolt head is a standard head and a tool that you would have in your trail tool box vs the Pro Comp Star headed bolt that most of us don't even know what size it is might be difficult to track down. Total Chaos has the advantage in knowing that you could break and they make this already frustrating situation a little easier to handle.

The second difference is that the Total Chaos arm is only Mig welded. Now don't get me wrong Mig is still proven time and time again and we all Mig weld in our garages but when we see a tig weld we all get a little happy inside and think Trophy Truck or Ultra 4. This is where the Pro Comp UCA has the advantage.

The third is the price and warranty. The Pro Comp is priced lower and has a 5 year warranty. The Total Chaos has no warranty listed.

You decide. Who's UCA's are the best Uniball UCA's for your buck?

 

While I tend to skip half of what is written and go straight to the peerretty pics, I have to say that Found myself reading, and actually contemplating what you have stated. I am planning on a simple 2-3inch and definately want to do it right.. Thank you for the details.

 

prices? That looks like a hell of an arch on the Procomp

 

i cant really believe what im reading here..comparing ProComp to Total Chaos? wow.

 

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Please discuss the advantages and disadvantages with respect to alignment for both. Specifically what can one expect as far as alignment numbers go when comparing the two; lets assume at a lift height of 2-3".

 

x2, TC > Pro Comp

 

Thanks for that read. I was thinking about going PC for my UCAs (moreso to keep it all PC)

 

I know TC puts at least 500 race miles on their products before selling. Does Pro-Comp do anything similar? What material is the Pro-Comp uniball made from? I might have missed it skimming.

 

Alignment on both would be very similar. From what I understand is Total Chaos was one of the first to offer UCA's for the Tacoma. All other UCA's are most likely copy's or design's were influenced by the Total Chaos design. Total Chaos UCA's are "designed with added caster to aid in retaining factory alignment specs when aftermarket lift kits are installed. This reduces the darting or wandering in the vehicle's steering when 2.5"-3" lift kits are installed".

I assume that Pro Comp has done the same. Pro Comp has always made Lifts for on Road use so they take alignment seriously because dealerships and 4 Wheel Parts across the country install them all the time and having customers come back because there wearing out tires to quickly is a real headache. Being that the Pro Comp's UCA's are made on a CNC Bender and Laser CNC each product would be with in spec.

For the best alignment we always recommend SPC UCA's. With there fully adjustable Ball Joint it will away's align correctly.

 

Yeah Total Chaos beats there product up. Nothing is quite like Baja testing. Not sure with Pro Comp. I know they test with "FMVSS 126-Compliance Certification". And they are coming out with a Long Travel that they have been testing and they have gone past there release date because of redesigning the Control arms for better strength. So I assume they beat on there Kits as well.

Pro Comp uses a FK uniball so the same as Total Chaos. My only my only question with Pro Comp is what thickness of material on the tube they use.

 

Pretty familiar with the whole alignment thing, I was just curious of real word results in order to provide a true side-by-side comparison. Specifically a comparison done by Low Range as Low Range is responsible for the thread. Since ProComp doesn't discuss this in the product description that I know of, real world results would be idea in order to point to PC UCAs as a true contender.

Lets face it, you lift your truck and pay for these arms and you can't achieve ideal numbers, I don't see ProComp moving very many or these arms. As it is they will have a difficult time regardless of where they are made, overcoming the reputation for....... well lets just say so so quality product.

 

Price?

 

Hopefully you didn't take this as Pro Comp being better than Total Chaos. There is no way that Pro Comp can beat Total Chaos's Long Travel Kits and Baja Testing. I am only observing Pro Comp's Try at UCA's and they actually did a good job for what they have to work with. I was just bringing out that there UCA's is another possible choice out there. I was simply using a High Quality Product as a Comparison.

 

I've seen them for around $500-600

 

Just so you know, I certainly don't.
I think its great you posted this and for those who were not aware provides an additional option for UCAs.

 

I'm not trying to be an ass at all, but how are these any better than TC arms when they don't even offer a 1.25" uniball like Camburg does?

Also, these arms run right around the same price TC does as far as I can see. Unless TC raised their prices to $1000 for UCA's.

 

Subd for more info and possible test beds. I'm intrigued

 

He's not saying anything is better than anything and camburg 1.25 arms weren't even mentioned.

It's just a simple comparison between two VERY similar arms.

The cheapest I've seen the PC arms is $599.

 

Yeah I think so. Are the TC arms really THAT much more? I haven't looked at the price of them on the simple count that I don't need them, but I can't see them being a lot?

I was mentioning the Camburg arms simply because of Procomps design using the same sort of mounting style that Camburg does which doesn't have an upper misalignment, only a lower.