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Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by mjp2, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. Jan 23, 2016 at 10:50 PM
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    DIRT YOTA

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    Sua up travel is not necessarily the same between all setups, from what I've seen. The springs u use and how they r setup makes a difference. Like the difference between a old clapped out leaf springs and new high arched. F55 or F67 deavers vs 50t or E30/H70 deavers. I've seen guys ( @nelson18matt and @jberry813 )with little uptravel swap to 50t and gain a lot of uptravel and some droop.
     
  2. Jan 23, 2016 at 10:59 PM
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    mutilatedjak

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    Are the 50t Springs fairly plush then?
     
  3. Jan 23, 2016 at 11:05 PM
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    DIRT YOTA

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    They have more arch to them, gives you more up travel. Pretty sure when Matt switched over he even gained a bit of droop. Plush... That's gonna come down to shock valving and weight in bed etc... I would call deaver and give him specs and what u desire out of it and get a custom pack. That was my plan but came up on 50ts for a great price. Jason ha f67's and now is rocking 50ts still I belive and he carries a lo of supplies and a trailer sometimes, he may be able to answer better
     
  4. Jan 25, 2016 at 4:17 PM
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    glorifiedwelder

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    I would personally avoid the defined kit. i don't like mine and have a buddy that doesn't care for his. Spend the extra money and don't compromise by going with the defined kit. If you are mostly gonna crawl with it you'll be fine but if you want to go fast it sucks compared to the dmz or TC kit
     
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  5. Jan 25, 2016 at 4:20 PM
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    I keep hearing bad things about defined, so that's good to know. Why does it suck when you go fast?
     
  6. Jan 25, 2016 at 4:20 PM
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    Can't keep up with the front end. Definitely stiffer than I would like and I don't think it will handle the weight of my rtt very well, but I haven't mounted it yet so I can't say for sure. I wish I would of listed to everything I read that said to avoid it. Once I find the time to get my supercharger installed the next big thing on my list is to ditch the defined kit.
     
  7. Jan 25, 2016 at 4:32 PM
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    Because it's too stiff? Soft?
     
  8. Jan 28, 2016 at 5:27 AM
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    Whatever happened to Mike@Defined? I haven't seen him post anything in a long time?
     
  9. Jan 28, 2016 at 6:56 AM
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    He traded the defined for something with more travel, he's now mike@totalchaos :laugh:
     
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  10. Feb 1, 2016 at 4:56 PM
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    So I have the dreaded "taco Lean" after long traveling the rear of my tacoma. At this point everything has settled in and it seems as if my deavers have already sagged out (there f67 deavers) Now the rear of my truck sits really low, the front end is pretty high as is and i know when I eventually get rid of the stock coil bucket up front it will drop that an inch or two. Does anyone have an idea for the rear? Im running around 150psi in my rear shocks and thought maybe if I give them a few more PSI of nitrogen the rear will come up a little more, good/ bad idea? Anything helps
     
  11. Feb 1, 2016 at 10:10 PM
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    ESB long travel kit, Deaver f67s with DTF 12 inch shackles.
    id suggest a new leaf pack. the f67s sit really low. allpro 50ts or deaver e30s or h70s would make it sit higher and wont sag much,

    i have a set of 50ts for sale at the moment
     
  12. Feb 1, 2016 at 10:19 PM
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    What is the rear valving? I was told anything over 15 stack should have 300 psi or the shims aren't working properly.

    U could have the f67 rearched by deaver. And or add another leaf.

    Or like Juan said buy his 50t pack and be happy with ur new found up travel.
     
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    I had the same issue with the F-67 pack and went with the E-30 pack on my 1st Gen regular cab. It is similar to their old H-70 pack. Before you pull the trigger on a new pack, I would call Deaver and get their advice on which pack to run.
     
  14. Mar 16, 2016 at 8:56 AM
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  16. Aug 16, 2016 at 9:45 AM
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    Engage offroad is no longer in business BTW. Shopping around for LT kits for my truck and called em' He just does personal stuff now..
     
  17. Aug 16, 2016 at 10:51 AM
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    Surprised they lasted as long as they did, the fit on some of their stuff was atrocious. I don't know how you could sell stuff that fit like that if you had Even the smallest amount of integrity
     
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    @mjp2 "- Don't bother getting a differential drop on an 05+ Tacoma (LT or mid-travel)" would you mind explaining why? Thanks!
     
  19. Mar 25, 2017 at 6:36 PM
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    It only rotates the differential rather than dropping it. There's threads where folks have gone full science to show the net effect vs consequences. CV angles aren't helped, clearance is worsened, and gear oil is shifted away from your pinion bearings
     
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  20. Jun 17, 2017 at 2:20 PM
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    Are any of y'all running hydro bumps in the front?
     

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