Rubbing Issues only me?

Hey everyone, new member here. Have been lurking for the past 2 months since getting my 16' 4x4 Dbl Cab Long Bed and finally decided to join TW. You guys are awesome.

I have installed new Camburg UCA's, Bilstein 6112 shocks and coils up front and non-adjustable 5100's in the back. It leveled out the ride with a little bit of a lift all around. Took pictures of before and after but should have measured also.

My issue is after getting XD 17 inch rims and putting on 265/70/17's, I cannot fully turn the wheel because the tires rubs on what looks like the cab mount. I have been reading posts where people are putting on 285/70/17 with no rub, how can this be! Do i need to just have my local fab shop Cab Mount Chop or do i need to just get different front shocks to lift it higher? I even trimmed the plastic by the wheels because they were rubbing there first.

I like the small lift because its a daily commuter and i'm trying not to hurt the MPG's. Any advice is highly appreciated. This is a picture just before the new tires went on.

 

What are the specs for your wheel, offset/backspace/width.

 

Yep, its the offset of the wheels thats causing your rub.

 

Probably...
OP, have you had an alignment?

 

Actually depending on wheel offset and negative caster, that will do it too.

OP, what are your caster numbers? I assumed you did an alignment after the suspension work.

 

17 inch rims, 9 inch wide with -12 offset. 4.53 backspace I believe. Went to put 285/70/17's on and you couldn't turn the wheel without it gripping the mudguard so i told them to go down to 265/70/17 and with a little trimming they work but at full turn they rub on the cab mount.

 

Update-

Next Monday the 8th I am having the auto shop adjust the 6112 shocks to the top notch and then doing another alignment. I will post the printout when I get it. Hopefully bringing it up will clear a little more but the original guy who put the shocks on said the top notch is only another 1/4" up higher. I feel like I should have bought taller shocks...

 

The wheel is your culprit. -12 offset and 9" width, you would probably need a 3+ inch lift to not rub.

 

No, you probably should have bought different wheels, as others have suggested.

Or if you want more lift, do it with better springs, not more preload on the springs via the shock perches. The resulting ride might suit you. But if it doesn't, you'll know whats needed to restore it.

 

Yeah I am regretting that now. I went to the tire shop and told him about the proper backspace needed but didn't take into account how the offset would screw me. Now I have rims on that I can't return and would rather not go through the trouble of trying to sell them. Is preloading a bad way to go? Would it be possible to just put bigger springs around the 6112 shocks to lift it higher?

 

Yup, your offset is way to aggressive for that lift. Why wouldn't be able to return the wheels!?

 

Do you not have the alignment print out from the last time? I've seen a couple 3rd gens with the same offset and width running 285s. I'd be more apt to believe your caster is too low, you should be able to get it to or above 3+ with the UCAs.

For the 6112s setting the preload higher will make them firmer, it may also move them up high enough that they lose too much down travel and max out over bumps resulting in loud thuds and a harsh ride. The body of the strut is bigger than most so probably little or no aftermarket spring options.

 

Teturault Tire Pro's told me "once they are mounted I can't take them back." I've driven around on maybe 60 miles so they are near mint condition.

 

Pardon me since i know very little about lifting and shocks, but wouldn't preloading the shocks more move the shock further down, extending travel? Maybe my idea of travel is different than what it really is.

Thank you all for your input!

 

I got the same size wheel Moto Metal and have the same size tires I'll be putting on when I pick up my truck tomorrow. If I have to chop the mounts I won't hesitate to do it. In the end, make the look you want work. 17x9 -12 can work without having to give it a +3 lift. I'll see how stock lift fits it and if it touches I will bump it up with a 2 inch lift. $.02

 

If you rub now you'll rub if you lift it. Lift has no bearing on tire clearance on a toyota IFS suspension. Try adjusting caster, or CMC.

 

It does move the strut body down which ends up extending the piston further, moving it toward the limit of the down travel. It will have more up travel because of this, but you should try to maintain enough down travel that it doesn't fully extend causing it to max out. I had this happen with some of my old coilovers and I've read more than once that its an issue with OME struts (which are shorter than Bilstein), it sucks and you'll know when its an issue.

 

Oh gotcha, i totally see what you mean. If your shock is close to max out, when you go over things it will be maxing out and hurting the shock, leading to less life.

I've noticed that the gen 3 tacoma seems to have a more flat cab mount compared to the last model. Are there any threads about gen 3 cmc's yet?

 

OP...what setting are your 6112 on currently as there are 5 settings?Going to the top setting is going to give you around 2.5" of lift, like others have said the backspace of your wheel sounds like the real issue.

 

6112 are on the 2nd to last notch, so I guess that would be notch 4. They ride great and handle better than stock in my opinion.

Yes it looks like I paid the price of not doing enough research on wheels and got myself screwed. I'll probably have my local fabricator shop do a little cab mount chop in the future so when i go to get new tires I can upgrade to 285's and be able to fully turn that wheel.