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Warn M8000-S wiring - is it undersized out of the box?

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by turbodb, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. Aug 14, 2016 at 1:06 PM
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    Hopefully a simple question, but something that's been bugging me since I bought a Warn M8000-S winch.

    The wiring between the winch, battery, and control box is #2 gauge wire. At varying loads, the winch seems capable of pulling up to 435A. (warn specs, also below)

    m8000 specs.jpg

    Does that mean the wiring is undersized? I thought #2 gauge maxed out in the ~130A range (obviously varying a bit on temp) I must be missing something.

    wiring gauge.jpg

    Thanks!
     
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  2. Aug 14, 2016 at 3:36 PM
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    If you feel it is to small for your use go larger!!

    Quite possible your winch got packed with the wrong cable my old cable is around I will try and see what size it is

    Only you know what kinds of use your going to have

    I can`t recall but I think the Motor overloads would trip before the cable got to warm.

    Now I use 1/0 welding cable to run the winch leads to the rear of my vehicle

    Then I seldom winch down to the last layer of the drum or drag 8000 pounds
     
  3. Aug 14, 2016 at 8:06 PM
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    I'm actually just referencing the specs of the wiring from the Warn site. (I've verified that's the cable size in the box too - it's not that it was packed wrong.) With Warn being the top end of winching, I figured they'd provide a system that was up to spec, which is why I assume I'm missing something.
     
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    i run the warn m8000-s and have put it to the test many times since picking it up last spring. i feel that the wiring included is up to where it needs to be as i've run the winch really hard and never had any issues with power or heat.
     
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    So, I sent email to Warn to see what they'd say. TL;DR: the 2 gauge wiring is fine for the M8000-S application. More details below, read top to bottom. I should also say that I was impressed with their responsiveness.

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    To: Warn Customer Service <cs@warn.com>
    Subject: Support: Wiring on M8000-S Winch

    Hi, I notice that the M800-S has 2 gauge wire, but I also notice that it's specs state a pull up to 435A at full load. It seems to me that that means the wire may be undersized. Am I misunderstanding something? Is the wire sized correctly?
    Thanks!

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    From: Warn Customer Service

    Yes the wire is sized appropriately for the winch as it’s only a intermittent use item.
    Regards,
    WARN INDUSTRIES INC.

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    To:
    Warn Customer Service

    Thanks for getting back to me. I think I’ve got it. What you’re saying is that in a situation like this, where usage duration of the winch is measured in seconds/low minutes at a time, the wire may heat up/be less efficient than a larger diameter wire, but that’s fine so long as the usage duration doesn’t cause significant overheating (and thus melting of insulation, etc.)

    Does that sound right?

    Cheers!
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    From:
    Warn Customer Service

    That sounds exactly correct.


    Regards,
    WARN INDUSTRIES INC.


     
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