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Anybody know where to get a rear winch bumper for a 1st gen?

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Sheepdog, Dec 30, 2009.

  1. Sep 13, 2016 at 7:49 PM
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    Adding some ideas:

    -Beefy but small tabs on the forward end of the plate that slide into female coves on the bumper and some cam lever holding down the back of the winch plate?
    -use a receiver hitch system but point them downwards (vertically mounted) so the winch plate drops down onto the front and rear bumper from above? Winch can either sit normally or be positioned so the bolts on the winch has no sheer.
    -use 10mm diameter bolts with quick release cam lever heads and make the holes in the front and rear winch plate keyhole shaped?

    Since you people are the "internet" for me, you will have the safest and best answer. ;) Any Ideas?
     
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  2. Sep 14, 2016 at 6:43 AM
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    vertical receiver might be strong enough...Yes? No? however it might not fit.
    this was the idea. solid is 2 vertical receivers. dotted is normal receiver hitch winches.
    20160914_070241.jpg

    Yes the rear bumper would need to move out but it is not built yet... i can do that.
    But looking here it is not going to work with the grill in the way.

    1064209d1381259408-potential-new-plate-s_49dea9d5d58aac6111a13c1eeccf8d0060c77c0f.jpg

    But i hope my goal is obvious, that plate is where it should be stored when traveling/off roading. The rear is where i most use it. receiver hitches stick out too far as the dotted lines in the sketch. When driving in town it is best left in my garage.
    Any other ideas?
     
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  3. Sep 14, 2016 at 6:55 AM
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    Relentless front and rear bumpers, Warn M-8000S Winch, Relentless RockSliders, bigger tires, bed cover RTT ... and more big changes in the works.
    Since we are throwing out ideas, here is an off the wall one....

    Mount the winch on the roof (after some reinforcement) on a swivel and use a pulley block attached to the front, or rear bumpers, to transfer the line of force to be in the direction needed. OR mount it in the bed and use roller glides to get the line to where it is needed to pull.

    BTW my winch is currently mounted on a hitch plate and I have a front and rear receiver on my 2004 tacoma. The winch plate front lip is 21 inches off the ground and less than 12 inches out from the stock front bumper on the stock suspension. It has not snagged on anything yet (in my limited rock crawling experience).
     
  4. Sep 14, 2016 at 7:06 AM
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    @MartinDWhite, Thanks for the response. And good ideas. It could be rerouted without the damage associated with routing a front winch to the rear. But, just from visiting many many roll over accidents, the frame to the roof will not hold the mass of the truck and typically you design winches to pull the weight of the car. BUT i had work trucks with them mounted on a roll bar above the roof. For pulling bear cages and carcasses onto the bed. (I am a biologist) This was really handy for many things and would supper nice for loading fire wood (un bucked logs).

    My bed is always full. so, i can not mount to the bed or run cables over the bed.
     
  5. Sep 15, 2016 at 5:16 AM
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    This is what i was originally thinking but i no longer have access to a milling machine or water cutter... nor do i want to guess at the safety of a 9000 lbs of tension on a steel cable.
    removeable winch plate dreaming 2.jpg
     
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  7. Sep 15, 2016 at 9:35 AM
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    Given receiver hitches are well proven and i only want to avoid this:
    winchr2.jpg


    It might be making the receiver hitch shorter is ideal (2 in this case but 1 might be ok)
    shorter recievers 2.jpg


    Is there any advantage or disadvantage to 1 vs 2 receivers?

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    EDIT: this is not going to work on the bumpers i was eyeballing. The winch needs to drop in from above.
     
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  8. Sep 15, 2016 at 9:41 AM
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  10. Sep 16, 2016 at 2:28 PM
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    In regards to the marine universal mount above:
    This even promotes the windlass mount for "jeep applications"
    http://www.shop-endurance-marine.com/product-page/23b9018c-fbfc-2eb4-8eab-1c5304ea2057
    This promotes using 2 for larger winches.... i doubt that would increase max shear rating x2. how would one estimate it?
    https://www.amazon.com/Endurance-Marine-Universal-Winch-Mount/dp/B00BINZJVS

    In regards to the short hitch receiver above the normal winch plate:
    not going to work on most bumpers i was considering, but not giving up on the rather simple compromise.
    I assumed it would work, but the image i was this:
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    found here: http://www.addictedoffroad.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=669
    But the contemporary version is this:
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    The faceplate that holds the fairlead is likely integral to the construction/strength as is the added pipe. I was just in Scotty's shop 2 hours ago... i was 100% sure I had a solution but when i saw 40 some bumpers lined up NOPE. But it looks like he changed his design since that photo was taken.
     
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