Cummins crate engine

Totally random diesel question, but how often do you have to change injectors on 'modernish' engines like the one in the Colorado? I know when the first Duramaxes came out in 2001 or whatever, everyone was jizzing all over them, but then when they hit about 100k miles, everyone had a bill for $2 grand to change the injectors, because you had to pull the heads off to do it. The newer duramaxes and (I hope) Powerstrokes and Cummins have easier injectors to change, but I'd be willing to be dollars to donuts it's still going to cost you a grand in parts and labor if you have a shop do it.

Be sure you factor in injector changes to the schedule maintenance of any Diesel engine... They cost more than they appear.

 

if you want a swiss army knife of trucks, check out a unimog.

 

injector costs are still $250.00 each minimum. then you have higher oil change costs to consider.

 

Next toy...

 

Yup it would be one thing if your engine croaked anyway out of warranty and if you are a high mileage driver perhaps

 

Interestingly enough, I did the math again. Short of it is it will actually take 1,112,000 to balance out. Much more than I thought. I think last time I did it based on anticipated numbers rather than actual since it hadn't been released yet. I think I have the math right.

Average fuel price for diesel in the past year (per eia.gov): $2.3039
Average fuel price for gasoline in the past year (per eia.gov): $2.0705
Colorado diesel option cost: $3,730
Colorado diesel 4WD Combined MPG: 23
Colorado gasoline 4WD Combined MPG: 20

To go 1,112,000 miles it would cost $115,119.80 in gasoline or $111,388.60 in diesel

 

i am a fleet mechanic for a private ambulance co. that said, we have purchased our last diesels, from here out its all gas. lower op costs and cheaper to maintain.
if money is no object to you, then maybe a diesel is for you.

 

Well damn

 

Not to kick a dead horse, since I have said this before already, but not everyone buy a diesel to save money. Sometimes we spend money on things we like because we like it. You will never recover that extra $2,000 you paid for your leather seats, or that sound system, or lift or wheels, but many (most) on this site spend thousands on things just because they want it. I, like some others, would just like to have a diesel, so I am willing to pay a little extra for it.

For fleet companies it might matter if they try to get the best bang for the buck, but for most private owners it is more of a preference thing.

Cool to see the math though. Thanks for spending the time. I am not shooting it down; just stating that there is more to diesel than MPGs.

 

I don't have a reference for it but I believe it was in one of the dirt every day videos that the cummins rep says something to the effect of "we are planning to bring a line of crate engines"
If i were to swap a cummins I would hope they offered something slightly larger than what we have seen already. Just my two cents.

 

What does that have to do with a diesel crate engine?

 

YAS.

 

Nothing to do with the crate engine in particular, just talking about Toyota and diesels in general

 

The 2.8 that's in the video would be a great sized engine for the Tacoma. However, the Cummins website does appear as though there are going to be other options coming in the future. They are producing the 5.0 V8 Diesel in the Titan this year, so it's likely that will end up as a crate engine as well. Although that would be a bit big for a Tacoma, more of a full size truck engine.

I don't know if I foresee Toyota bringing their own diesel to the line-up. They've had a diesel engine in the Hilux and LandCruiser's all over the world, but they haven't put one in a Tacoma. There's a reason, whether it's emission requirements here in the states or perceived demand. If, however, the Colorado and potentially the Ranger come out with a diesel and there is a market shift to those vehicles from the Tacoma, then you might see it happen.

All that said, if my engine took a crap tomorrow I'd consider the swap to the Cummins. I'm with @Boerseun, I love a diesel. The smell, the sound, all of it.

 

Cummins added a survey to the informational website.

https://cumminsengines.com/repower-survey?mID=986

Basically they ask about what engine swaps you've done before, what additional options you'd like to see for the engine, and what size engine you're interested in.

 

The motor would be a perfect swap for a 4-banger. Same hp, almost 100 ft-lbs more torque that peak in half the rpms, hopefully it's still available when my 2tr shits (30k miles) lol. Even at 8 grand, if I can do it myself I consider it worth the dough.

 

civilized conversation

 

Try closer to $600 for new injectors (ea), plus labor if you can't manage yourself. This is for a common rail as mechanically injected systems utilize MUCH cheaper injectors

 

Common rail injectors will likely give issues in the 150k range. This is hugely dependent on the filtration. Unfortunately most manufacturers don't have adequate fuel filtration (what Bosch recommends)

 

One question I have not seen addressed is what transmission. In the Jeep test it was clear that the diesel performed better offroad crawling, had better mpg but it also seemed that there freeway speeds were slow. Diesels tend not to have the broad rpm range that a gas engine does. As we know big rigs will have 15/16 speed trans. If its strickly for offroad slower speed use great. I am making generalizations hear but it needs to be discussed as well.