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Best lift with brushguard and winch

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by snorman1110, Jan 15, 2017.

  1. Jan 15, 2017 at 2:35 PM
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    snorman1110

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    Trying to decide which lift would be best for me. It's my daily driver and I do mostly on road driving. The off roading I do is on narrow hunting trails and a winch is needed if I get stuck. I'm looking into a Westin brushguard even though it's not as sturdy as a plate bumper. Gonna add the winch too. Deciding between eibach coils with 5100's or 5100's with ome coils. I want the softest ride out of the options since it's my daily driver but I also don't want the front sag with the added weight. Main part on the lift is to add bigger tires and to level it with the front. Trying to avoid aftermarket UCA's if I can stay under 3". Anyone with advice? I'm sure it's been posted before but can't find it.
     
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  2. Jan 15, 2017 at 5:52 PM
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    I have this winch mount http://www.hiddenwinchmounts.com/store/, with a Warn 9000 and synthetic line to keep the weight down. I might add a brush guard if I can find one that won't interfere with the winch and relocate my flood light. I don't have notice any sag as the winch mount is about 45 lbs, the winch is about 35-40 lbs with the synthetic line.

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  3. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:06 AM
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    That's why I'm sort of stuck on the Westin brushguard because it has the winch mount. I like the system you showed me mike5krnr but I like the look of a brushguard or plate bumper. If you find a brushguard that HWMS would work with just message me back. Thanks for ur input. Any input on the suspension questions?
     
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    I would go with OME 885 Coils paired with the 5100s. That gives ~2.5" of lift with no weight in the front end, so you'll likely get ~2.25". You'll need a rear lift too, but AAL's are cheap. If you were to go with 886s, the ride would be too stiff. I had 5100s/885s on my truck and did not need new UCAs. Whatever you end up buying, buy from @HeadStrong Off-Road. Great prices and free shipping, and Marie can help you out with any questions you have.
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  5. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:15 AM
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    I'm currently sitting 2" higher in the rear from factory. If I add the lift to the rear wouldn't it give me more rake and then I'm back to figuring out what I'm going to do with the front? I'm sorry if it's a stupid question.
     
  6. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:18 AM
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    If you were to lift the front with 5100s/885s only, then you would be nose high, and as soon as you put any weight in the bed it would be even worse. If you lifted the front ~2.25" and the rear 1.5", then you would have ~1.25" of rake which is a perfect amount.
     
  7. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:22 AM
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    Thank you sir. I've been leaning more towards the ome. What AAL should I go with? On toytec website I see the 2" AAL and the 1.5" block. I may not be looking hard enough for the 1.5" AAL.
     
  8. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:25 AM
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    So I bought my AAL from Wheelers Offroad. I sourced my lift parts from all over so I could get the cheapest price. It's just a single leaf that you add to your leaf pack.
     
  9. Jan 16, 2017 at 4:05 PM
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    Do I need to do any cb drop or any kind of shimming of any sort if I do go with 2" AAL? I found the 1.5" AAL and that may level it out with a little less rake then the 2".
     
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    The best practice is to lift the rear, THEN see if you have any drive line vibrations. I had a verrrry slight shudder accelerating from a dead stop (from 7-10mph), but it never bothered me enough to fix it. That was with the 2" AAL.
     
  11. Jan 16, 2017 at 6:25 PM
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    That's a nice looking set up.
     
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    Thanks brother! I appreciate it. Love that damn truck.
     
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    A winch and a Westin brush guard would probably be on par with an ARB in terms of weight. Here's my measurements for reference. You can look at your hub to fender to extrapolate how much I've sagged from the factory values prior to my lift to determine what your post-lift would be.

    Before:
    Front Left - 20" hub to fender
    Front Right - ~20" hub to fender
    Rear Left - 21.5" hub to fender
    Rear Right - ~ 21.5" hub to fender

    After:
    Front Left - 22" hub to fender
    Front Right - 22.5" hub to fender
    Rear Left - ~24.5" hub to fender
    Rear Right - ~25" hub to fender.

    I had 5100 @ 0.85 / Eibach 620 / Icon AAL / TSB 3+1, overload removed.
     
  14. Jan 18, 2017 at 4:10 PM
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    What if I went with the eibach coil for 1.6" and 5100's set at 0? How would the ride compare to the 885 coil and wouldn't that level me out? The calculations looks good on paper but I don't know if anyone has tried it. I could go with the 885's and AAL in the back but I would still get rake. I done the measurements this time from the hub to fender and I'm sitting 1.5" lower at the front. I'd like to get as close to level possibly and go up 1 inch on tires.
     
  15. Jan 19, 2017 at 5:30 AM
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    I second the 5100/OME combination. I went with the 887s instead though (same spring rate as 885s, just a tad taller).

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    I can't speak for eibach since I have no personal experience with them. I'm not sure what their spring rate is, which will play a role. Spring rate is how much force it takes to compress the coil 1" IIRC.
     
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    I don't know how I am just seeing your signature pic for the first time, that is GOLD!!!! :rofl::bowdown:
     
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    Glad you like it!! I got it from @kgarrett11
     
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    I would go with the 887's but I don't want to add too much lift because of the fact I may have to add UCA's and other little kits here and there in case of vibration. Main purpose is to have the winch and brushguard along with a set of 265/75/16 sst pros. And try to keep the factory ride as much as possible along with it being somewhat leveled.
     

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