Long Travel BS Thread

http://www.filthymotorsports.com/Articles.asp?ID=265

 

No, the uca are fine is just the lca. It sounds silly but makes sense when you break a tie rod and you see how much It folds in.

 

Whoops my bad I meant the LCAs! Im sure especially with LT they can go pretty far.

Coot

 

I'd also take into account cv bind when the wheels are turned (not much you can do about it, but you've got be mindful that it's there). Stock cv's, long travel, and a front locker don't go well together once you start cranking the wheels

 

How do you guys go about painting your interior cages. Are some of them bolt on? Or just lots of masking?

 

Lets talk shock sizes, planning the panhard 3link with trailing arms and im stuck between 14/16" or 16/18" shocks. What i had originally planned i was gonna do 2.5 14" coil and 2.5" 16" bypass. i would look into a 2.0/3.0 but im worried about clearence from hitting the frame and also from the tire. Im shooting for 20" of travel and the more i read around im seeing the 16/18 shocks with the double cabs. id rather save the money from 16 to 18s and buy bump stops. Im locked in on doing the panhard but lets hear what others think as far as shock combos.

 

get out the painters tape and plenty of paper

 

judging by the lower shock mounts of the links you're buying. You'll need the 16/18s. They are right by the axle.

 

its all about geometry, Im strapped at 21" on a 14/16 2.5 combo and no c-notch

 

thats what im thinking also, wondering how much travel ill lose if i go with 14/16 with the panhard.

 

Easy to mock up some PVC "shocks" with some sharpie marks on them to see before pulling the trigger.

 

yea i was thinking the same before i blow that money, metch is running 16/18 and then the truck JTA built is just 12" coilover and they are both at 20" of travel, figured 14/16 would be fine to get close to 20", also my bedsides are limiting also because the tundy axle.

 

I'm using 16/18 and done some preliminary sketches on solidworks I'm hoping to pull 23-24" strapped. With the mounting location on those links I'd definetly go 16/18 that way you'll for sure get atleast 20 strapped if its set up right. If you're gonna link it you wanna pull atleast 20". Longer shocks aren't much more expensive so no point in skimping there. If the mounts were farther forward on the links you could run 14/16's

 

You also should start figuring in a swaybar. It's tough on a parallel 3 link but plenty doable and unless you go with an unconvential setup it will be tough to add after the fact.

 

Which brings up a random question for me.

Wouldn't you want the shocks and coilovers further up the arm to slow shaft speeds to tune better as well?

 

yea i was looking around for the sway bars, any suggestions? i think for 500$ more ill get 16/18 shocks and not regret it later. theres some king 2.5 18" triples on craigslist right meow for 1500 bucks brand new

 

Simple math. How long are the links and how far up the link is the shock mounted?

For mine 48" links with shock at 26". So if you take a 14" shock the math would be...
14/26 = x/48 and cross multiply
14(48) = 26x
672=26x
25.84"= x

So with a 14" coilover I would get 25.84" travel at the axle. This is linear and the links travel on an arc but gives you an idea. My links are for extra cab so your numbers are different but you can plug in coilover length and see what it changes

 

51" links and heres a pic for reference. just know how long they are. he was swinging 20" with 14/14 combo

 

OK here goes, some of these differences are very subtle like the finishes. That may be due to wear or the way the manufacturer finished the surface of the metal.

The only things I don't have is an OEM axle shaft so I cannot compare a CVJ and OEM shaft, but I don't think I've ever heard of someone breaking an axle shaft. But it would be interesting to see the difference between the 2.

I don't know where the difference in parts is coming from.....maybe they are older versions of the parts from earlier second gens? I am also wondering if CVJ is mixing and matching parts from FJs, 4Runners, and Tacomas to assemble these.

I didn't notice any differences in the tripod cups.

Also I didn't notice it until I posted the photos but the CVJ cage has larger windows and is slightly larger than the OEM cage.

 

If you angle the shocks enough anything is possible.