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2013 4.0 cyl 6 misfire

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by SoCal_PreRunner, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. Apr 8, 2017 at 12:57 AM
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    I bought my Tacoma a few weeks ago and love it, but noticed it running kinda rough especially during a cold start. Also, it will "hiccup" while sitting at a light or stop sign. Today it finally gave me a cel and it was P0306, so I switched the plug and coil with cyl 5 to see if the problem followed the parts. I haven't gotten another cel, I will check it in the morning.

    My main question:
    While researching, I have seen a lot of 4.0 cyl6 misfires that are caused by a bad head gasket on the earlier years (2005-2006) and read that in 2007 they updated it? Is this accurate? Is this still a problem in the 2013 4.0s? Thank you.
     
  2. Apr 8, 2017 at 1:03 AM
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    So far as I know the later 4.0s (07 and up) don't have HG issues. That's not to say there won't be a fluke failure or two or two out there. What did the cylinder 6 plug look like? How many miles? Original plugs? Original plugs are Ngk on the passenger side and Denso (I think) on the drivers side.
     
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    116k miles. The PO had a folder literally an inch thick with maintenance records from the dealership. I am going to see exactly what has been done to it in the morning.
    Cyl 5 and 6 plugs liked identical. Cyl 6 gap was a little smaller, but not by much.
    I understand anything can happen with an engine, I was just getting worried reading about all these hg failures lol
     
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    Also are you sure you didn't switch it
    I wouldn't worry about it too much yet, it's probably something simple like a bad coil or fouled plug. You're supposed to change the plugs every 30k on these. Have you cleaned the throttle body and maf sensor? Could be a bad injector at your mileage, though it's unlikely. Best thing would be a coolant system pressure test or leak down test to either rule out or confirm if it's the head gasket.
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    I will clean those in the AM. Correct me if I'm wrong, but either of those would creat a random misfire, not an individual cylinder?
     
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    Thank you for quick replies. I was seriously trippin over a possible hg lol
     
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    Random misfire could be a fuel delivery issue, bad O2 sensor, dirty MAF, clogged injectors, vacuum leak, weak coil, bad plugs, lots of things... lol
    I'm not saying it's not a head gasket issue, it could still be... but it's not common on the 07 and up 4.0 engines. Individual misfire that's happening all the time is more indicative of a more serious problem, the fact that it's stumbling on cold startup is bothersome as it's a tell tale sign of hg problems on the 4.0.... that plus the cyl 6 misfire... you're justified in worrying. Could be why the PO dumped it... just saying. The things I suggested are just good maintainence practices that people often neglect on these trucks/in general. It wouldn't hurt to check the compression while you're at it.
     
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    I'm almost certain that Toyota updated the HG part number sometime late in 2006... a bad HG in a 2013 would lead me to believe that it could have been overheated at some point... look through service records for radiator, hose/thermostat or water pump replacement. The coolant, according to Toyota, is good for 5 years/150,000 miles. So it should still be ok. Though they may have replaced the antifreeze if another component had to be replaced, so also look for coolant/antifreeze in the service records. Look through the records and see what you can dig up.
     
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    Did the maintenance log say when the plugs were last changed? If it's close to the 30,000 mile mark I would just change them all, then clean the MAF sensor and throttle body. All of that will take you maybe two hours tops and will give you a fresh start. These trucks are so easy to DIY the maintenance...there is so much info on this forum and a lot a great people here will help if you have questions.
     
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    2013 DCSB owner here. Had the same issue as the OP about a month ago. It was a bad plug. Changed them, and problem solved.
     
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    Thank you all very much. I am a mechanic (I definitely don't know everything) and I was literally planning all of these things for today. I will check the service records now. Again, thank you for the replies.
     
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    Just went through the records and didnt see anything about spark plugs being done or a radiator / thermostat. I am going to replace the plugs, clean MAF and throttle body, and replace air filter. I haven't been on any firums in a long time. Not since i had my Volkswagens ( I had a Corrado SLC and a Mk2 VR6 GTI). People on VWVORTEX seem to flame people for any honest question. Thank you guys for not doing that. I understand what can cause misfires or other issues with an engine, but I also understand that some engines have common problems (05 and 06 hg as discussed earlier). I am going to get my parts now and will post updates. Again, thank you for your input.
     
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    As you know, the issue is especially apparent on cold starts. The misfire moved. I am very relieved lol. I actually switched cylinder 4 and 6 plug and coil. I was removing a Ford 460 yesterday at work so my mind was still thinking that way.
     
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    All i had time to do on Saturday was replace the plugs. So far it has been great. Thank you all for input!
     
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