Fox suspension tuned by TRD

First post, just joined. I was wondering if anyone knows if it's possible to install the 2017 TRD pro suspension (TRD tuned fox suspension) on a 2016 SR5 Tacoma 4x4? Do you know the cost/labor on something like that?

 

It is possible but it ain't worth it you are better off getting a fox stage 2 kit or kings or icons then the trd pro suspension

 

I just don't want to void my warranty, that's why I was going with the fox/TRD suspension. Maybe I'll be better off waiting to get an aftermarket suspension once my warranty is up.

 

There's some confusion with warranties and aftermarket parts. Toyota has to prove that the modifications you did adversarly affected the truck. Like say you put a lift kit on and 6 months later the engine explodes. For Toyota to say "well the lift kit caused it" they need to prove it was the direct and only cause. If you take your time with the install and make sure everything is right there's not to many things that can wear out prematurely.

My last Tacoma I had a lift and slightly bigger tires, and I lost a lower ball joint and wheel bearing at 50,000 miles. Well after some complaining on the dealers part everything was replaced under warranty. 25,000 miles later the other lower ball joint went bad and again they replaced it under warranty.
If you want you can have the dealer instal the lift for piece of mind, it actually doesn't have to be the TRD stuff, if you dropped off an icon kit they could install it for you. Just brace for $120+ per hour labor charges. So for a full install you are looking at almost a grand just in labor. If you have the tools and decent know how it's not that hard to install a lift kit. Just take your time and a weekend and bang it out. Also don't forget the cost of the alignment when you are done to. I do the lifetime one with Sears so that was $130 I want to say.

To answer your first question, Yes the 2017 Pro Suspension will fit the 2016, technically 2005-2017 Tacoma suspension will fit. Toyota didn't change the mounting, there's slight height differences however. So if you stuck a 2015 Fox Coilover in the front, it will actually net less height compared to if it was on the 2015. If you do go the Pro Fox TRD shocks, you can only find those at the dealer or some guy who just bought a pro took them off for some reason. Brace for like a $2k price tag on them. At that price you can get an Icon or Fox Stage 2 or even a King setup which are compareable units, easily more readily available, and also rebuildanle and customizable.

 

Thank you jztacoma. That helped alot. I got ahold of my dealership. They do a procomp lift. But he said it will definitely void my warranty. He suggested a 3-2 leveling kit, which will not void warranty. What do you think about the leveling kit with TRD suspension?

 

He's wrong. You can't "void a warranty" as @jztacoma explained.

Do you really think that if your air conditioning gives out, they're going to tell you that you're out of luck because of the lift. Absolutely not. That's not legal.

However, if you combine the lift with larger tires and your differential gives out, they could possibly successfully pin it on that.

 

Yeah theres a point where there will be a failure that was caused by the lift. Say you put a spacer lift in hit a speed bump to hard and now bent the shock. Or the bigger tire rubs on something and damages it. Things like that.

 

@js312 yes I would be putting 33" BFG A/T, keeping my stock wheels, that's it I get the lift or leveling kit. I'll give them a call again, and ask why it will void it. What you say makes alot of sence. Why would it void my warranty??

 

So what you are going to run into with 33s (assuming there are 285/75R16) on stock rims, is the width of the tire will now rub on your upper control arms, possibly frame, and more thank likely the Cab Mount. Easy fix is putting on a set of wheel spacers. I have Bora 1 inch on mine since I'm planning to run 285/70R17s eventually on my stock rims and that will push the tire and wheel out far enough to avoid those kind of rubbing, I know I will probably have to trim some plastic and chop the cab mount back at bit.

For basic leveling kit, I say go with a Bilstein 5100 shock, you can re-use your stock springs and hardware and be done for a couple hundred bucks. You can go to headstrongoffroad.com or PM Marie from Headstrong @HeadStrong Off-Road (I think they are moving this week so they might be slow to respond). Honestly my recommendation is just order the 5100s, new springs that suit the lift you want to go for, and order them already assembled. That way you can just un-bolt and go. The shock is designed for the lift, and should also ride better then the stock ones. Guessing budget is a concern since you are looking at some spacer lifts, so the 5100s will set you back anywhere from $200-500 depending the route you go with

 

Procomp offers several kits including 6" lift kits, which involves sawing off crossmembers from the frame and welding in new ones. Maybe the dealer was referring to that one? The same rules apply regarding warranties, but the 6" lift being more invasive, can affect more parts of the truck.

 

Aren't the coil spring rates on the 3rd gen higher than 2nd gen? Not sure if that (1) is really true and (b) if so whether it's also true of the FOX/TRD coil overs. My stock TRD springs from 2008 were about 520 lb/in by most reports and I'm running 650 lb/in now, which is on the high side for a 2nd gen (and I have V6, ARB bumper, extra battery in front). I've read that 3rd gen may be greater than 700 ft/in and if that's true would make for a very rigid ride on an otherwise stock 2015.

 

Yes TRD Pro suspension can be installed on your SR5. Cost is a bit over $2k for parts. You will see very little if any lift at all on the front only. Install is very easy and you should do it yourself. Dealership will charge you way too much. Aftermarket fox kit which is better can be had for less money than the TRD kit. None of the lifts will void warranty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act That being said the new suspension will of course no longer be warrantied and if Toyota can prove that your mods caused the failure they can deny warranty work. Both of the options that the dealership has told you about are gross and they will over charge you per the usual. 3-2 leveling kit is a 3" spacer in the front and 2" blocks in the rear and the procomp lift is probably a 6" drop bracket lift which is also gross. Those require cutting the cross member which is why he told you it voids your warranty most likely. It of course doesn't but it is a pretty serious mod that a dealership very potentially could say caused whatever issue you may end up with.

 

I definitely don't want a 6"lift. I was looking at a 3" lift kit with 33's on my stock wheels.

 

This is what I was told; regarding your question about lift kits, you must understand there are different type of warranties. If you install an aftermarket-Non Toyota lift kit that will void certain suspension warranties. For example if the shocks(suspension part) go out because of the lift kit then it would not be covered. The a/c unit would still be covered under warranty because the a/c unit does not operate in conjunction with the suspension. Another good note to keep in mind is that if you modify your vehicle with aftermarket components it will only void items that work in conjunction with the modified component. All unrelated items are still covered.

 

yeah in a nutshell thats correct. Toyota won't warranty anything that wasn't on the truck when it left the factory. If you put the TRD Fox shocks in they'd probably won't even warranty that unless a Toyota Dealer installed them and they were brand new ordered through them. Basically if you replace the shock, anything that is connected to it you run the risk of them not warrantying, but they will def not warranty an aftermarket component (just doesn't make sense they will)