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Rear Fox shock lenght For Tacoma, Fj and 4 Runner

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by shr133, May 6, 2017.

  1. May 6, 2017 at 10:06 AM
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    K & N filter, 275 70 17 Cooper AT3, OME Nitrocharger shocks, 884 Springs, Dakar leafs.
    So on my wild hunt to find DSC Fox shocks for this summer during the back order, I needed to find the proper length rear shocks for my Dakar leafs.
    The std DSC are stock length and wont work with a 3" lift.
    I also found that it looks like all Toyota shocks are the same just different lengths and use the same part numbers.

    So for the Dakar leafs I need 2-3 lift or std FJ / 4 runner rear shocks which are similar length to the nitrochager shocks I have now and the BP51s.

    If it's the same part number I would assume they all have the same attachment and valving.
    I think I may have ordered the last set available till the next batch comes, I'll find out in 10 days.

    Here is a chart I found in my search for smooth body shocks and verified part numbers by looking them shocks up at Fox.

    1. On the DSC shocks for the FJ you will need .75 to .5 bushings to fit the Tacoma lower bolts.

    https://www.polyperformance.com/fox-2-0-performance-series-reservoir-smooth-body-shock-for-toyota


    Part # lift travel length
    FOX-985-24-116 Tacoma 2005-2015 Rear 0-1.5" 8.6" 13.7" 22.3"
    FOX-985-24-116 Tacoma Pre-Runner Rear 0-1.5" 8.6" 13.7" 22.3"
    FOX-985-24-117 Tacoma Pre-Runner/Rear 2-3" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 Tacoma 2005-2015 Rear 2-3" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 FJ Cruiser 2007-2009 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 FJ Cruiser 2010-2014 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 4Runner 2010-2015 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 4Runner 2003-2009 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 Prado 150 2010-2014 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-117 Prado 120 2003-2009 Rear 0-1.5" 9.1" 14.7" 23.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 Tacoma Pre-Runner/TRD 2 3.5-5" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 Tacoma 2005-2015 Rear 3.5-5" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 FJ Cruiser 2007-2009 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 FJ Cruiser 2010-2014 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 4Runner 2010-2015 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 4Runner 2003-2009 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 Prado 150 2010-2014 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"
    FOX-985-24-118 Prado 120 2003-2009 Rear 2-3" 9.6" 15.2" 24.8"

    All Pro - Fox, remote resi's (rear shocks) do they really fit out trucks?
    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...hey-really-fit-out-trucks.87113/#post-1659394

    UPDATE:

    So I have my Fox DSC 2.5 FJ shocks installed perfect length for dakar leafs.
    They are 9" travel 3" up and 6" down travel... after a small tweak.. I'm running a smaller bushing to shorten the shock a little...

    But unlike the other Fox shocks they don't just bolt in.
    1. You need a .5 to .75 bushing
    2. Go to 1/2 bolts
    3. Trim the width of the rubber bushings
    4. and Grind the bottom of the shock so they fit in the mounts
    5. Flip the reservoirs
    6. reclock the drivers side reservoir...
    But after all that they fit great and are the right length.

    Not worried about the valving because I had planned on getting custom valving anyway, but should be real close..

    If I were to do it again I would order the Tacoma lower eyelets and have them installed.

    You could use the Tacoma shock and use a spacer under the bushing to make the shock 1/2" longer but the FJ shock has 1/2" longer travel and I may be lifting the rear a little more...

    When I get my ecu back I be running up north for a test run...


    I also clear coated the shocks for the northern salt.....
     
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  2. May 6, 2017 at 10:16 AM
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    FJ/T4R have a different lower rod end. It's a larger 3/4" hole.

    Also the valving is completely different since they FJ/T4R has links and not leafs. You have thicker valving with links.

    Take a look at the 2nd/3rd gen tundra replacements. Same upper and lower mounts, but slightly longer
     
  3. May 6, 2017 at 10:51 AM
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    That's what I thought, but they use the same part number for both the Tacoma,FJ and the 4 Runner......
    So valving has to be very close....
     
  4. May 6, 2017 at 11:25 AM
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    Stuff and junk and things...
    The valving should be different but Fox puts the same valving in both applications. I have verified they are the same shim stacks with Tacoma PN's and T4R/FJ PN's.

    They ship with bushings for both Tacoma and T4R/FJ. I ordered a 2.0 CD shock september last year, finally got it in January.
     
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  5. May 6, 2017 at 5:15 PM
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    Sweet that's what I thought. Makes getting fox shocks easy just pick the length you need.

    They are all on back order I may have landed the last set but we'll see....
     
  6. May 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM
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    My order is shipped, landed one of the last sets...........
    Finally I'll have good shocks again and in time for summer.
     
  7. May 8, 2017 at 8:24 PM
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    I am still waiting for my front fox dsc too. was told 6weeks ish lol. so a few more weeks.
    for the rears, shocks that fit in the stock location will limit dakar shocks, so i went for 12" long ones with custom valving for my truck.
    made up some mounts and got it setup.
    IMG_8897.jpg
     
  8. May 8, 2017 at 8:43 PM
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    You don't want to go with Performance Series. They have issues with the upper stem top breaking off. Ask me how I know. Fox acknowledged this issue and for the steel shock body Factory Series they made a revision to their stem tops to allow a screw in upper top cap and independent stem from the rest of the shock body, just in case it breaks. Them just like the PS used to be solid on the upper stem top as well. Not anymore.

    Go Factory Series.

    You will see what I mean upon viewing the image of the two. The Factory series shock displayed on this link does not accurately show the right upper mounting stem top, it shows eyelet, but,
    - P/N 980-24-636 is 10" stroke (25.88 expanded/ 15.88 collapsed) and
    - P/N 980-24-637 is 12" stroke.

    A little more pricey than the PS shocks, but worth it. Choose your flavor.

    https://www.polyperformance.com/fox-2-0-smooth-body-remote-reservoir-shock-5-8-shaft

    PM me if you need any additional help with this or want any clarification in what I am saying. :)

    Fox%20Updated%20Taco%20Shock_zps093zwm4z_31f34932b3f8af8a960be6a4b3de5d1cd5e521e0.jpg
     
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  9. May 8, 2017 at 9:49 PM
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    K & N filter, 275 70 17 Cooper AT3, OME Nitrocharger shocks, 884 Springs, Dakar leafs.
    Yeah I was planning on going 12" but settled for the stock shocks for now just in case I get a new truck.
    If not that will be the next step.
    Yeah I was lucky to find a set of shocks they have been out of stock and may be June/July for the next batch and no is even taking orders.
     
  10. May 8, 2017 at 9:57 PM
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    i cant even remember if mine are factory or performance lol
     
  11. May 13, 2017 at 7:26 PM
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    My shocks made it no problems, now they are out of stock.
    Got a .75 to .5 bushing from the hardware store for the lower bolt.

    The fronts are in now to install the rears.
     
  12. May 13, 2017 at 7:27 PM
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    K & N filter, 275 70 17 Cooper AT3, OME Nitrocharger shocks, 884 Springs, Dakar leafs.
    Also one of the nuts broke free in the frame for the sway bar bolts....

    How the heck do I fix that.
     
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  13. May 14, 2017 at 10:34 AM
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    K & N filter, 275 70 17 Cooper AT3, OME Nitrocharger shocks, 884 Springs, Dakar leafs.
    Ok took out my nitrochargers and measured up the fox FJ shocks and they are the perfect length for dakar leafs springs.

    Mounting height is just over 25" and the truck is at 22" and it's a 9" shock giving me 3" up travel and 6" down travel with 200 lbs in the bed.
    My stock bumps start to hit at 5".
    Just what I want.

    They are about a 1/2" longer than the nitrochargers and are also a 9" shock. But I was running washers on the EMUs so I'll pick up about a 1/4" more down travel.
    The foxes also have heavy duty 3/4" thick bushing that could be modded for a little more up or down travel if needed.

    The lower bushing much different than on the tacoma about a 1/2 wider and 19mm (3/4).
    I'm going to call fox to see if I can get the lower bushings.
    If not I'll mod the bushings to fit and get a 11mm to 19mm bushing for a tighter fit than the .5 to .75 bushing.

    Some people claim this is a 10" shock but from what I find it's a 9" shock and measuring it's only 8 1/4" to the rubber stop and 8.8 total.
    Dang wish it was a 10" shock that would have been perfect....
     
  14. May 26, 2017 at 6:51 PM
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    UPDATE:

    So I have my Fox DSC 2.5 FJ shocks installed perfect length for dakar leafs.
    They are 9" travel 3" up and 6" down travel... after a small tweak.. I'm running a smaller bushing to shorten the shock a little...

    But unlike the other Fox shocks they don't just bolt in.
    1. You need a .5 to .75 bushing
    2. Go to 1/2 bolts
    3. Trim the width of the rubber bushings
    4. and Grind the bottom of the shock so they fit in the mounts
    5. Flip the reservoirs
    6. reclock the drivers side reservoir...
    But after all that they fit great and are the right length.

    Not worried about the valving because I had planned on getting custom valving anyway, but should be real close..

    If I were to do it again I would order the Tacoma lower eyelets and have them installed.

    You could use the Tacoma shock and use a spacer under the bushing to make the shock 1/2" longer but the FJ shock has 1/2" longer travel and I may be lifting the rear a little more...

    When I get my ecu back I be running up north for a test run...
     
  15. Jun 27, 2017 at 2:35 PM
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    K & N filter, 275 70 17 Cooper AT3, OME Nitrocharger shocks, 884 Springs, Dakar leafs.
    First run up north went great.
    Shocks work great.
    FJ valving seams good, maybe a click stiffer than the front..

    Need the longer shocks with the tacoma and dakars...

    The adjusters work great you can feel every click..
    The low speed adjuster could have a better click, very soft, but work good..
    The high speed will do most of the work...
    Low speed controls the harshness.

    I would say using the FJ shocks are a pain to set up, but in the end are the perfect length for driving fast...
    I would do it again..
    But should have just went to 12" shocks. but we'll run these for awhile...
     
  16. Jul 21, 2017 at 9:12 PM
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    Update:

    The FJ shocks worked great at the dunes. They are stiffer than the Tacoma front coils but on the dunes the valving is closer than the Tacoma coil overs.
    So I'm going to have all 4 shocks revalved and we should be good.
    The FJ shocks were at 6 clicks but the coil overs were maxed out and still soft.

    If you are getting the Fox DSC the front coils need more compression and rebound dampening .
    The FJ rears just need a little more rebound.
     
  17. Jul 31, 2017 at 8:58 AM
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    Think these 980-24-636 might be perfect for my deavers. Wanted king 25001-121a to match my fronts but 2.5s are probably overkill for me Just looking for a good extended rear shock with adjusters
    for occasional weight. Quoted from poly:
    Fox 10" 0.625" Remote Reservoir 2.0 Series, Stem Top, w/Hourglass Eyelet, Black, "30/75 Valving"

    Would you recommend this valving for street driven occasionally crawling "i wish i didnt have so much shit in the back so i could go a little faster" setup. Would rather not revalve since i really dont have the knowledge and trucks a DD so sees a lot of highway/ town.
     
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    As far as valving is concerned on any car, absolutely not. I recommend probably something like 50/30 (equal to about 10C/8R) if you are going to be occasionally crawling and having some fun but still want to enjoy DD. Personally I run 90/50 on my rear which is equal to about 15C/10R, but my shocks are valved towards "Go faster than the quad next to you as you blast across the dunes" style setup.
     
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  19. Jul 31, 2017 at 9:54 AM
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    Ok thanks for the reply. Ill have to hit up poly and see if thats the only option as fox would have to add the adjusters anyway. Just read your build thread. Good stuff
     
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    What would a 30/75 be good for outta curiosity. Still trying to learn
     
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