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Class action regarding failed head gaskets 2005-06 Tacomas & 2004-06 4Runners, would you help?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by jboudreaux1965, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. Jun 23, 2017 at 11:45 PM
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    jboudreaux1965

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    Howdy guys,
    A few of you may know I am involved in a little bit a lawsuit with a dealership over my head gaskets. I am going to ask my attorney's firm if they would consider being the lead in a class action lawsuit regarding the abnormal failure rate of the head gaskets on 1GR-FE engines used in Tacomas, Tundras and FJ's that were manufactured between 2004-early 2006.

    I know all of you guys are involved in several forums and several clubs. If you were affected or know someone affected, please post or PM me what state/country you are from and the make and model and year of the vehicle. I don't need your name etc... all I need for now is cause enough to get them to agree to lead the class action. I just mainly need numbers of people effected and to prove the problem occurred in multiple states/countries more often on these year models.


    Thanks guy!
     
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  2. Jun 23, 2017 at 11:50 PM
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    Good luck, that's a rough one. All of the "affected" vehicles in your case are ten years or older now, head gaskets fail and ten years and who knows how many miles isnt necessarily premature. Be a hard case to make, what are you hoping to gain? Genuine question considering this is a lot of work for something that might cost around $1200 to fix and just be done with.
     
  3. Jun 24, 2017 at 5:54 AM
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    I don't think this is such a crazy idea...if there was a faulty gasket on 2005-2006 Tacomas and the gasket was known to fail around 130xxx miles then most of those trucks driven at the average amount of miles per year are reaching that point. From my limited research replacing the head gasket on a 4.0L is more in the range of a $2500+ job than a $1200 job.

    Vehicles break, but if a company used a part that was not up to standard and broke without warrant that could have some standing.
     
  4. Jun 24, 2017 at 7:41 AM
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    I think your issue with the dealership that was giving you trouble may have been legitimate. Going for a class action lawsuit against Toyota for a 10 year old truck that has headgaskets fail,even outside of platinum warranty coverage is a stretch.
    Seems to me we live in too much of a "sue happy" society. To me the idea reads similar to something along the lines of "my brakes have worn out over 60k miles so I'm going to sue Toyota since I think they should have lasted 100k".
     
  5. Jun 24, 2017 at 7:49 AM
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    You know who wins in a class action lawsuit? The lawyers.

    Everyone else loses. Big.
     
  6. Jun 24, 2017 at 9:39 AM
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    I think the only way class action suits do any good is if it's a common failure within the warranty period and the manufacturer tries to place the blame on the owners to get out of covering it. This is what happened with my Hyundai I just sold.
     
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  7. Jun 25, 2017 at 11:32 PM
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    I also read FJ, Tundra, and other forums. Seems there is a REAL DOCUMENTED anomoly for head gasket failure that only happens in 1GR-FE engines in 2004 4Runners, 2004-2005 Tundras and 2005-2006 Tacomas whois engine was manufactured before the redesign. EVERYONE screaming for a recall or class action. I'm all in, I have spent alot of money on this case and have not even moved my tacoma in months to preserve it. I thought my hardship after getting an active attorney involved on my specific case could benefit a great number of other owners. My view is this... by the time this is over, I am whole again or completely screwed! But, I will have an attorney that is a memeber of one the largest firms in the country now educated in the 1GR-FE!

    Even if Iose everything, it is a whole lot easier to get help from an attorney/firm if they understand there is a problem.

    I'm just trying to help. There is a real defect. Some Tacoma owner somewhere, sometime in the next 10 years will bring it to court, just like the 3.0 sludge, rust, etc...

    Who wants to wait another ten years and start all over...

    Help/don't help

    I am worn out.
     
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  8. Jun 26, 2017 at 8:16 AM
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    OP gtfo... people like you are the problem with society these days.

    You got 10+ years of service out of your truck... thats twice as long as any american made hunk o shit....
     
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    Welcome to 2017, where everyone sues everyone else and the only real winner are lawyers
     
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    It seems to me that the problem is that a lot of people say, "buy a Toyota. They run forever". Then when there's a problem with their Toyota before the arbitrary "forever" is up, they decide it's time to sue Toyota. "Toyota put in a new frame when it rusted out, so we know they can be persuaded. Let's sue them because the 7th fetzer valve failed at 197,000 miles".

    What about all the Chrysler mini vans that had a transmission failure at 85,000 miles? The Chrysler owners just junk the van or spend big money get a trans rebuilt. All the while, mumbling, "I should have bought a Toyota. They run forever".
     
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    I don't think theres as many failures as you suggest.

    Sucks to suck I guess. Good luck and have fun.
     
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    Damn #2 gen strikes again!
     
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    Manufacturers do often extend the warranty on defective parts as part of class action settlements, but it's typically 10 years or 120k (or so) miles from the "in service" date, just like what Toyota did for the oil consumption issues for the 07-09 Camry. This would be useless for 05-06 model Tacomas since they are now over 10 years old. If there were going to be a class action lawsuit it should've been 5 years ago.
     
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    $1200...try $3000
     
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    So you think it is normal for the head gaskets to all fail in the exact same place in some cases with mileage as low as 80k ? It was a clearly identified defect by Toyota because they changed the design in 07'. If you had to lay out $3k at only 100k miles for this your opinion would be significantly different.
     
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    Well I wouldn't ever pay the dealer to do that job but I don't doubt you're correct. Even so, at over 10years old and being a Tacoma I cannot imagine it's been getting you for much maintenance per year, the average yearly spending on vehicle maint. for Americans comes to around 1k. This being the only major thing over the last three years wouldn't be too out if the ordinary. Like I said good luck, but this isn't to the scale of the old 3VZE engines and their messy head gasket issues, plus it is so late to be called out. I've had Toyotas with head gasket issues and I had to change the whole head on my 3RZ which is known for cracking but in no way would I call out Toyota after 18yrs haha.
     
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    People have been chasing this with Toyota for many years, this is nothing new... folks were blowing head gaskets and warping heads after just a few years.
     
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    Exactly,Toyota took action on a redesign ,so they knew the gaskets were defective,so they are responsible......
     
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    Look at the Turd generation trucks and all their problems,Toyota cant even make a mostly problem free truck in 3 Generations now!
     

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