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Rear Fox shock lenght For Tacoma, Fj and 4 Runner

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by shr133, May 6, 2017.

  1. Jul 31, 2017 at 10:29 AM
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    Don't lose too much sleep over the adjusters. They are not as important and effective as you would think they are.

    8 compression/ 12 rebound. Worst valving in the world and Idk why Fox does that from the factory it is a totally stupid idea.
     
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  2. Jul 31, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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    Those 2.0 shocks will benefit greatly from custom flutter stacks to smooth out the ride and give you better control. And also be sure to balance the vehicle front to rear, it makes a big difference!

    When it comes to the 2.0 Stem Top shocks I prefer the performance series because of the really nice aluminum body and billet mounting clamp.
     
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  3. Jul 31, 2017 at 2:26 PM
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    Yea the adjusters in front were pretty much a wash for my application but i woulda always wondered what if so lived and learned.
    But i do use the fox clickers in the rear somewhat often. Although I only go from #3-#5 outta the 8 possibilities. So having a shock set at #4 setting initially (no comp. adjuster) would save a few hundred bucks
     
  4. Jul 31, 2017 at 2:31 PM
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    Not all adjusters are created equal, and the Fox ones tend to be pretty effective.
     
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    Honestly anything at 12 or over is just getting into too stiff of settings. The ride for me is very firm, not like teeth clenching stiff, but just firm.

    It's not that I am doubting how effective they might be as a whole. The problem with them is that they meter in the amount of oil which goes into the reservoir, thereby slowing down the fluid initially entering in. This metered resistance as a byproduct creates heat. Heat eventually froth's up the shock oil and then you start to experience fade. Unfortunately the best solution as a whole is to just install the correct valving in the first place and experiment via trial and error. After less than 2 miles of hard running with my compression adjusters clicked all the way up, my shocks were VERY hot, whereas if they were valved correct, they would not had been.
     
  6. Jul 31, 2017 at 2:50 PM
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    Damping equals heat, so any shock that produces equivalent damping is producing equivalent heat. If all the valving was on the main piston the shock would have been as hot, or hotter.
    By adding an adjuster the heat is spread out, with some being generated at the reservoir which often contains cooler oil and sometimes has better air flow, and better heat dissipation.
    In addition adjusters prevent cavitation, and increase a shocks performance. Shocks with adjusters are MUCH less likely to have frothy oil.

    Here is an article I wrote which covers how Fox adjusters work and all of their advantages.
    http://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/how-fox-dsc-dual-speed-compression-adjusters-work/

    Adjusters aren't for everyone, but properly designed ones have a lot of benefits besides just damping adjustment.
     
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  7. Jul 31, 2017 at 3:03 PM
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    IMG_3242.jpg @*TRD* i
    yea these are definitely not dsc
     
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    Got the shocks revalved..
    The rears use std valving but they said the front coil overs used some weird valving so they had to make a custom stack.
    I should have got the stack info, I'll have to call them...
    I go back to the dunes next month for the real test but should be really close...

    Had them revalved at B & L motorsports in MI right next to the dunes, it was a 3 week wait just to get them in...
     
  9. Aug 11, 2017 at 2:17 PM
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    I like the DSC adjusters on the fox shocks..
    They work good and give a good range of adjustment..

    But my shocks do get hotter than I thought they would....
     
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    Do you have a picture of the .75 to .5 bushing you used?
     
  11. Aug 11, 2017 at 2:47 PM
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    3/4 to 1/2 bushing from ace, I think 1" or 1 1/8" length...
    Like this one
    And used a 1/2 bolt so I can use the same wrench for top and bottom of the shock...
    [​IMG]
     
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    You all seem to have a fair amount of shock tunning knowledge, I pulled my first coil over apart this week for a rebuild and the valving that is in it has me lost. Any input would be appreciated, I'm a total newb when it comes to tunning.

    Rebound Stack:
    Diam: Thick:
    1.600" .012"
    1.600" .012"
    1.425" .012"
    1.350" .008"
    1.100" .015"
    .950" .015"
    .800" .015

    compression
    Diam: Thick:
    .800" .010"
    1.800" .008"
    1.600" .008"
    .800" .010"
    1.425" .008"
    1.600" .010"
    1.425" .010"
    1.350" .008"
    1.100" .010"
    .950" .010"
    .800" .020

    Looking for more of an "overland" setup that will serve as a good base for fine tunning later. Would be nice to handle medium speed stuff but that may be asking too much. I bought these used so I know they have been rebuilt.
     
  13. Aug 13, 2017 at 1:06 AM
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    Those disks look out of order or that's some goofy stuff!
     
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    Yeah, it seems to be some weird attempt to be a flutter stack but idk what they were trying to achieve.
     
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    Some good info here...:popcorn:
     
  16. May 3, 2018 at 3:44 PM
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    Yeah that's not a std stack, If you don't like it I would go to a std stack for both compression and rebound.
    I have a std stacks in my rear shocks and they are working great for everything.

    I'll be revalving my front shocks over the next few weeks, I'm tearing it apart right now..
     
  17. Jan 21, 2019 at 9:35 AM
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    What kinda lift is the fox tacoma rear good for? 1-1.5 inch aal? Thats really inconvenient that the fox rear shocks are too short
     
  18. Jan 24, 2019 at 9:25 AM
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    Fox makes several lengths. For most mid travel kits with level ride height the -117's are the correct lengths. For taller lifts or to retain factory rake with front lifted the -118's are better.
     
  19. Jan 24, 2019 at 9:27 AM
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    So for Dakar medium leaf pack and retain the rake, 118 is the best?
     

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