1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Bilstein 6112

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by KnoxTac0713, Mar 15, 2016.

  1. Aug 14, 2017 at 7:13 PM
    #781
    snowmanwithahat

    snowmanwithahat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Member:
    #120444
    Messages:
    1,555
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Vehicle:
    2013 Spruce Mica DCSB, TRD OR, V6, Auto
    Alright boys, so this is the final product.

    I should start by saying I had a very tired 2-leaf + overload stock pack before, that was literally on the overload 100% of the time unloaded. I was shooting for a full-size half ton-like capacity, and I couldn't be happier with how this turned out.

    I started in the rear with 5160s, a 3-leaf 2016 leaf pack and then a 3-leaf AAL from headstrong offroad. I dropped the overload and just went with a simple 6-leaf pack, with no overload.

    In the front I went with 6112s on the second clip. I wanted to keep the stock UCA and also have some rake, and it turned out perfect (for me).

    Those of you looking to level your truck with this setup probably would be disappointed.

    I parked it next to a brand new Chevy 1500 to see how it compared. See for yourself, the bumpers, bed height, hood and rake all look very similar.

    IMG_20170813_140958.jpg IMG_20170813_162152.jpg IMG_20170814_203745.jpg IMG_20170814_203812.jpg IMG_20170814_203406.jpg IMG_20170814_203423.jpg IMG_20170814_203436.jpg IMG_20170814_203453.jpg
     
  2. Aug 14, 2017 at 7:55 PM
    #782
    jaredc2306

    jaredc2306 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2015
    Member:
    #157276
    Messages:
    999
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    San Antonio, Tx
    Vehicle:
    2016 ACLB TRD OR Quicksand
    Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards. Just hoping for some affirmation from others that may be running that setup. I think after it settles, it'll net me with a decent stock-like rake with the Dakar leaf springs. There is a white ACLB 3rd gen with a camper shell that has the exact stance I want mine to have, but I can't remember where he posted what setting he had...
     
  3. Aug 14, 2017 at 8:13 PM
    #783
    snowmanwithahat

    snowmanwithahat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Member:
    #120444
    Messages:
    1,555
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Vehicle:
    2013 Spruce Mica DCSB, TRD OR, V6, Auto
    You should be fine, check out my above post. That's with a 1.5" AAL and my front is on clip #2
     
    PreTaco170 likes this.
  4. Aug 14, 2017 at 10:52 PM
    #784
    PreTaco170

    PreTaco170 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #201379
    Messages:
    193
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Russ
    San Diego County
    Vehicle:
    2009 PreRunner DCSB TRD OR
    Bilstein 6112/5160, Dakars, JBA UCAs, FN f(x) Pro 17x8, 285/70R17(C) BFG KO2, Wheeler's Off-Road Bumpstops/U-bolt flip kit, CMC, Marlin Crawler HD LCA Frame Brace Kit, TRD CAI, Flowmaster exhaust, Alpine iLX-407 CarPlay receiver
    I guess you probably didn't use a 1/4" spacer for TacoLean or did you? Just verifying. Do you have your measurements pre-lift and post-lift by any chance?
     
  5. Aug 15, 2017 at 4:38 AM
    #785
    Jared8907

    Jared8907 txtaco07

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2017
    Member:
    #209347
    Messages:
    477
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB 4x4
    Weathertechs Tint Led Interior Method NV TRD Pro Bilstein Suspension Icon AAL CaliRaised sliders
    Great looking truck. I think the rake is just about right. It seems like the 2016+ leaf swaps are popular these days
     
  6. Aug 15, 2017 at 8:19 AM
    #786
    snowmanwithahat

    snowmanwithahat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Member:
    #120444
    Messages:
    1,555
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Vehicle:
    2013 Spruce Mica DCSB, TRD OR, V6, Auto
    Lots of take-offs, that's what made it easy for me. Another member on here sold them for $100+shipping.

    I'm not sure if they're actually more stout than the 2nd gen springs. If anything, I think it's the exact same as the TSB 3-leaf + overload packs that some 2nd gens had from the factory.

    As you can see, mine was pretty unlucky and I got a 2-leaf + overload and it was downright pathetic.

    This is what it looked like when loaded near the factory spec payload, 1,120 lbs of salt in the bed.

    EnWzSf9LrIH2t8F4_XlMEIl_UUASiRsRl_1btafb_56c99f60901c182e626f3e951755f4ecdb8a8280.jpg
    6wNhMCvCe83eA1ECkY4b8zkDIPayCYW38rzX3GA0_0fa6f14f7b019f0862835081926562adbc2c3309.jpg
    AskV053wd0IGoJ-qg-BA4dEvklALDB9KDW_edcO7_19d933e8c7bd804672f66cea1f8f2b288b34deba.jpg
     
    PreTaco170 and Jared8907[QUOTED] like this.
  7. Aug 15, 2017 at 4:03 PM
    #787
    j5Taco

    j5Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2017
    Member:
    #208790
    Messages:
    99
    Gender:
    Male
    Someone sounds salty.
     
  8. Aug 15, 2017 at 4:34 PM
    #788
    snowmanwithahat

    snowmanwithahat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Member:
    #120444
    Messages:
    1,555
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Vehicle:
    2013 Spruce Mica DCSB, TRD OR, V6, Auto
    No? Pretty excited about the new setup actually.
     
  9. Aug 15, 2017 at 9:28 PM
    #789
    MikeR585

    MikeR585 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2017
    Member:
    #223979
    Messages:
    76
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Vancouver Island, BC
    Vehicle:
    2017 MGM Tacoma TRDOR
    *Ahem*
    I believe it was a, umm, joke about the salt bags. ;)
     
  10. Aug 16, 2017 at 2:59 PM
    #790
    Stickerice85

    Stickerice85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Member:
    #162338
    Messages:
    260
    Gender:
    Male
    South Eastern, PA
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma DCSB TRD Pro
    I have B6112's and B5160's........................Just installed my OME095R leafs and JBA HD UCA's.

    I had no lights come one when i was driving it a local off-road shop to get my alignment done. After the alignment, the Tech said one of my light is "on" and that the "steering angle sensor is out and is at 270 degrees." They charged me $175 for the alignment but are clueless with the light, i should've just took it to Toyota for the alignment. Now i'm going to be $100 deep from Toyota just for a diagnosis from Toyota. The local shop is going to have a conference with their Techs and call me back in the morning.


    This is the light......

    Warning Light.jpg


    Here's my before/after alignment....


    Alignment.jpg
     
    PreTaco170 likes this.
  11. Aug 16, 2017 at 3:12 PM
    #791
    PreTaco170

    PreTaco170 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #201379
    Messages:
    193
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Russ
    San Diego County
    Vehicle:
    2009 PreRunner DCSB TRD OR
    Bilstein 6112/5160, Dakars, JBA UCAs, FN f(x) Pro 17x8, 285/70R17(C) BFG KO2, Wheeler's Off-Road Bumpstops/U-bolt flip kit, CMC, Marlin Crawler HD LCA Frame Brace Kit, TRD CAI, Flowmaster exhaust, Alpine iLX-407 CarPlay receiver
    You need to ask Toyota to do a "Zero Point Calibration" on your truck after the lift. That should take care of the problem. I can't remember how much I paid for it but I believe it was around $100-$125?? Maybe someone else has gotten it done recently and can give you a better idea. Mine was done over two years ago.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2017 at 3:18 PM
    #792
    Stickerice85

    Stickerice85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2015
    Member:
    #162338
    Messages:
    260
    Gender:
    Male
    South Eastern, PA
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma DCSB TRD Pro

    What's a "zero point calibration"?
     
  13. Aug 16, 2017 at 3:27 PM
    #793
    PreTaco170

    PreTaco170 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2016
    Member:
    #201379
    Messages:
    193
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Russ
    San Diego County
    Vehicle:
    2009 PreRunner DCSB TRD OR
    Bilstein 6112/5160, Dakars, JBA UCAs, FN f(x) Pro 17x8, 285/70R17(C) BFG KO2, Wheeler's Off-Road Bumpstops/U-bolt flip kit, CMC, Marlin Crawler HD LCA Frame Brace Kit, TRD CAI, Flowmaster exhaust, Alpine iLX-407 CarPlay receiver
    Well I'm not a mechanic so I don't want to get technical about something I don't know much about. You can search it on the forums in the search bar or just Google it. Lots of stuff comes up. It needs to be done after replacing suspension components that change the height, steering angles, etc. The vehicle's VSC system is getting confused now that the vehicle has been lifted. All I know is I had the same problem and I brought my truck into Toyota. The Tech said, "Oh yeah, we see this all the time...anytime you change the suspension geometry you need to have a "Zero Point Calibration" done. I didn't have time to research it myself to see if it was something I could do so I had them do it. Fixed my problem.
     
    Last edited: Aug 16, 2017
    Stickerice85[QUOTED] likes this.
  14. Aug 16, 2017 at 4:06 PM
    #794
    snowmanwithahat

    snowmanwithahat Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2014
    Member:
    #120444
    Messages:
    1,555
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Matt
    Vehicle:
    2013 Spruce Mica DCSB, TRD OR, V6, Auto
    Lol got it
     
    MikeR585[QUOTED] likes this.
  15. Aug 17, 2017 at 6:17 AM
    #795
    Scott B.

    Scott B. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2014
    Member:
    #142118
    Messages:
    4,241
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Scott
    Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2015 ACLB SR5 4x4 Expo
    Last edited: Aug 17, 2017
    Bastek and Stickerice85 like this.
  16. Aug 18, 2017 at 7:51 AM
    #796
    HB Taco

    HB Taco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Member:
    #54683
    Messages:
    1,207
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Curt
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 F150 FX4 S Crew 3.5 TT
    Question for 3rd gens and (2nd's in 5th gear) running 285's. Hows 6th gear (AT's) on the hwy? Will it hold and accelerate or is it always downshifting when you try to accel even say half throttle? I'm guessing its too tall of gearing now.
    I've posted this info a couple of times on this and other threads: If your going to max out or even close to max the clip position or lift you pay the price of exactly what you describe. It will top out easy over SB's or quick dips. I experienced it when I first did mine on the 4th position. I lowered it to the 3rd and totally got rid of that. I wish they made them with a threaded collar so you could dial them in on the fly. I did a semi write up on page 5 about it.
     
    PreTaco170 likes this.
  17. Aug 18, 2017 at 9:23 AM
    #797
    AramsTRD

    AramsTRD Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2017
    Member:
    #214326
    Messages:
    548
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Aram
    North Hollywood
    Vehicle:
    2017 Tacoma Silver Sky Off Road 4X4
    6k LED headlights Baja Design Squadron Sport R fog lights CaliRaised Ditch Brackets w/ Baja Designs Squadron Amber Baja Designs Squadron Pro flush mount on Rear Bumper Kings 2.5 with Resi’s Front and Rear Icon Tubular UCA’s with Delta’s OME Dakars Leaf Springs Timbren U-Bolts Flips kit with Timbren Bumpstops Demello Offraod Front Bumper Smittybilt Winch9500lbs W/ Synthetic Rope TRD PRO Skid Plate for the front Pelfrey Mid, Rear and Gas Tank Skids Pelfrey Rear Bumper with Wilco Tire Carrier Welded on SCS F5’s 16x8 -25mm Wheels BFG KO2's 285 75 16 Prinsu Cabrac AllPro Rock sliders Import Equipment Red & Dark Grey Light Decals
    I have never heard that clunk noise on my car and I have it on the highest setting on the driver side and 1 lower on the passenger side. I even tried jumping passing train tracks and no noise. When it comes to the 285's on a straight away it holds 6th gear just when going uphill it will down shift but even when my car was stick uphill would downshift a lot cuz 5th and 6th gears are overdrive gears. That's what people tell me.
     
  18. Aug 20, 2017 at 11:42 PM
    #798
    GrayMetalic 2015

    GrayMetalic 2015 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2017
    Member:
    #224106
    Messages:
    45
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma TRD Sport
    Bilstein 6112 4th notch Bilstein 5100 rears 1.25" rear block Light Racing UCA BFG KO2 265/70/17 on Fuel 17x9
    @HB Taco appreciate your info, I did read your post and with that said I'm going to install Maxtrac spindle and set the 6112 to the lowest notch.....That should fix my issue for sure and plus get the geometry back to stock.
     
  19. Aug 30, 2017 at 2:59 PM
    #799
    jaredc2306

    jaredc2306 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2015
    Member:
    #157276
    Messages:
    999
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jared
    San Antonio, Tx
    Vehicle:
    2016 ACLB TRD OR Quicksand
    I don't remember seeing it mentioned that anyone has done it so forgive me if this has already been asked. Has anyone used the 6112 set at 0 with an OME lift coil spring (886, 887, etc)? I'm curious if the two are even compatible, I don't see why not, but I'm no expert. Would be interested to see some feedback if anyone has. I hear that eliminating preload is generally a good thing!
     
  20. Aug 30, 2017 at 3:11 PM
    #800
    Clay7160

    Clay7160 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2016
    Member:
    #194623
    Messages:
    1,273
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 MGM TRDOR DCLB 4x4
    GYEON ceramic coating
    The 6112, comes with its own spring, most of the tacoma models will get 2.5 inches of lift at the top clip setting. The OME spring is not compatible because of the shock diameter of the 6112 is 60 mm, compared to an OME or stock shock which is smaller in diameter. The spring will not slide over the shock body. You can you springs from eibach, Fox, king or other compatible springs if you need to get a stiffer spring for bumpers etc, but then you might be better off buying a different set up
     
To Top