Rear right tire locked up

I thought every knew not to drive their Taco in the rain!!!

 

I'm happy you got this figured out and the truck back!! You said right rear? - look at your avatar - get any stuff in rims/drum etc... after "Luke Duking i.e. whipping biscuits, playing with donuts etc..." it

 

just another turd gen issue

 

Yep. No other drum brake has ever done this. Toyota engineers are amazing.

 

Have you ever considered that you "should have bought a 4Runner"?

I for one learned something from reading this thread. Thanks @Alank808 for following up with us and thanks TW for a great forum.

 

No i need a truck for my job and an SUV is not going to work

 

I haven't been here any time at all, and I officially have a ignore list now.....nice.

 

I have driven a 400 HP Vette & and a 400 HP Porsche in HEAVY FLORIDA TORRENTIAL RAINS WITH NO ISSUES. And Toyota says try not to get the DRUM BRAKES WET !!!! Give me a fucking break .......ITS A TRUCK !!!!!!

 

My 2nd gen e-brake wouldn't release on a few occasions. Each time it happened was after a long distance on a dry gravel roads. From experience, banging on the backing plates with a big rock will release it. Just remember the truck will roll free so make sure its turned off in park/in gear/chocked.

 

I guess you did the rear diff breather mod for nothing since it can't cross a mud puddle let a lone a real water crossing!

 

Yup, and zero issues driving your taco in the rain either. The difference is getting the drums wet and then parking it right after. Same thing happens on my two hondas as well... and they have disks on the rear. The pads stick to the rotor after being washed and parked right away.

 

May or may not be the case here, but I was just about to post this in a new thread but thought I would search to see if another had the rear brake fail like I just had last Saturday, in Baja:

My Toyota Tacoma finally had a problem in Baja! UPDATE: Repair photos added.

With all the trips and miles added, especially this year, my fail card finally came up!

The truck is a 2010 and has 109,000 miles on it with most of the last 20,000 miles doing these Baja Bound research trips for the new guide. This was TRIP #7... unlucky 7!

The good news is my Tacoma did not leave me stranded and I still could drive it 250 miles back home!

I have has flat tires and my battery needed replacing on my trips this year, but nothing else.

Well, my Tacoma had its first mechanical problem in Baja... my card finally came up! LOL

The good thing is I could still drive it, albeit carefully, back home!

It was the rear brake that came apart or ?? (I will find out soon).

The rear brake (a drum brake) blew a seal, it seems, as fluid came streaming out... but that was after they locked up or were binding (left side). I actually thought it was the front disk brake pad that may have got a rock jammed in it.

I was on a road that I was just informed was impassable... or risky even though the Baja 500 recently used it. I needed to see for myself, plus it was my plan to go on from Mike's Sky Rancho to Hwy. 3. We went this way with no problems in 2005. Oh, how 12 years and lots of rain can change things in Baja!

Anyway, climbing a short, rock ledge in low range, the truck didn't want move after I parked to look at tire placement. I gassed it and it made a clunking sound and acted like one brake was frozen. I parked for a while and noticed that driving in reverse was not a problem... but did make sure it wasn't drivetrain related as it made the clunking in 2WD and 4WD.

I sent emails to Larry (bajatrailrider) [as he was going to Rancho el Coyote with motorcycle riding friends that day] and Rancho El Coyote, to contact me as I had a problem. {The Garmin/ DeLorme inReach satellite device is an amazing tool to have when you are traveling in the boonies}

I went ahead and tried driving it back to El Coyote... I was only 3.7 miles away. Thankfully, I made it and all was well until I noticed my back tire was wet... on the inside (so no dog pee) and there was a growing puddle of brake fluid.

When Larry and his gang showed up and heard my description they said to use vice grips to clamp the rubber hose that feeds fluid to the brake drum and that the fluid remaining is devoted to the front brakes and they do 80% of the work. In addition to the vice grip, I wrapped bailing wire and cinch strapped the vice grips so it wouldn't un-lock... plus I made a cinch strap chain to not lose the vice grips if it did come off. Mike (who lives at El Coyote) gave me some rubber to use with the vice grips so the teeth won't damage the brake hose. A great Baja solution.

El Coyote has wifi and I texted my Toyota mechanic and he concurred with the solution and assured me that the front brakes would be doing fine for the drive home and he would try and get me into his shop Tuesday.

It is 35 miles and 3,000 feet down to Highway 1 from El Coyote, and that was the first test. At the Pemex just north of the junction with then observatory road, I bought brake fluid and added it to the very low reservoir. That turned off the brake and traction control warning lights.

Driving home, I used the gears as much as possible to slow down and no heavy braking. Coming to stops in Maneadero and Ensenada, plus the borderline stop and goes was all the worst part as the truck would act like the brake was frozen until I got rolling over a few miles per hour... not always, but mostly.

The main thing is the Toyota, even with a destroyed brake, got me home... Oh, what a feeling!

PS, the rear brakes are the original that came with the truck.

The vice grips were from Larry, as I did not have any in my small tool collection... so bajatrailrider saved the day! The rest of the story will be in TRIP REPORT #7

Here are photos (from my phone) taken of the problem and repair, Tuesday from 4 pm to 7:30 pm...


Jason has the first look and sees something looks very wrong!


This part with the two round rivets is crooked and loose! The right side spring attachment point is out and the left is in (as it should be).


Jason's right hand is holding the loose part. It is what holds the brake shoes in place.


This is the right side (illuminated well by the sun) and how it should look and solidly attached to the back plate.


The bad side, notice that part hanging there at a bad angle.

There is a lot of hammering to get the angle back as close to where it was, then out comes the MIG welder!...





New shoes and new cylinders installed to both sides then a lot of adjusting.

I drive home, brakes no longer making noise or grabbing when I leave a stop sign! The emergency brake does not work with this emergency fix because the angle of the part is not perfect for the shoes to make contact using it. The shoes are adjusted out to the max and still get the drum on the wheel. Nothing more could be done last night. The truck brakes fine with the foot brake.

A perfect repair will need a new half axle since the part (welded back on) is factory attached to the back plate with those two rivets. The back plate is attached to the half-axle. Anyone with a Second Generation Tacoma left side half axle they don't need???

 

Bringing this thread back to life

 

I have a turd gen Trd OR AC
18k miles
Whenever I start the truck on cold start, If I take off the ebreak and place it in Drive, itll move 2 feet and suddenly the wheels will lock. If I give it gas itll burn out but remain locked. Not sure which wheel locks because if its buring out It means one wheel is moving while the other is locked. I tried leaving it without the ebreak overnight. It still did the same issue.

 

Can’t believe water alone can cause this...especially this day in age..how do all these guys go off-roading? Only dirt roads? This is such an uneacessary problem with all the tech we have the drums couldn’t be sealed? Don’t know much about brakes but I know a lot of cars and sedans on the road had drums back in the day, did this happen to on people’s daily driver non off-road type of vehicles? I know this wasn’t the OP’s specific issue but a lot of guys brought to light other potential causes I never knew about...

 

Because?

 

Damn how in the heck did 2 huge rivets come loose,Toyota needs too get their crap together.

 

Warranty.

 

How many cases of this are you aware of?

@David K, nice field fix and temp fix at home.

 

The fix "at home" was @Speed Freek 's shop in Vista CA (my mechanic) and it was not temporary as the brakes are still fine.

My Tacoma is a 2010 (now) with 112,000 miles so after dozens of 4WD trips in Baja, was it so weird to finally have something break? The best part was that with the field fix (vise-grips) I was able to drive it ~250 miles back home.