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Where will the 2018 Tacoma be made?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by DarkK, Oct 20, 2017.

  1. Oct 20, 2017 at 11:10 AM
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    DarkK

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    Will it be at the plant in Texas?
     
  2. Oct 20, 2017 at 11:18 AM
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    Also Baja California plant.
     
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    Not sure about the 2018's but based on what I have read in the threads of TW about the 2016/2017 Tacoma's:

    If you buy an access cab, PRO, and possibly a manual transmission truck, yes TX built.

    If you live in Canada, your truck will be built in TX.

    The double cabs with AT are made in both Texas and Baja CA (Mexico).
     
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  4. Oct 22, 2017 at 5:06 AM
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    Thank you
     
  5. Oct 22, 2017 at 7:00 AM
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    Can't wait to see how reliable the 2018s will be based off the build location.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2017 at 10:44 AM
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    People always say you get what you pay for. How skilled can a Truck Manufacturing Plant Technician really be if she's only getting paid $2 - $3 an hour max ? The Globalist Elites say it's a world economy now.

    $2 an hour is poverty wages no matter where you live.
     
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    You could say the same thing about the Texas plant. When Tacoma production moved from NUMMI (which was Toyota's only UAW plant, being co-owned with GM) the average pay rate for a worker building one went from $28/hr to $15.25/hr.

    http://combatingglobalization.com/articles/how_globalization_works.html
     
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    But Texas is the developed world and Mexico is the 3rd world.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2017 at 11:04 AM
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    Exactly. When we want to buy cheap products, we get cheaply made products. No way around it. Whether those products are built by robots or poor people is irrelevant.

    You’re free to blame whomever, but really it’s The Consumer’s fault for not supporting local or quality manufacturing for the past five decades.
     
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    Precisely. I don't know hard numbers but I suspect the cost of living in Tijuana is lower so $4/hr may represent different purchasing power. Anyway, the real alternative is $0/hr with no jobs. Don't Mexicans or Chinese or Vietnamese have the right to compete and sell their labor to global buyers? Is anyone in TMMBC being forced to work there, literally being slaves? You could make an argument that having no other option is virtually so (e.g. the Foxconn situation). But if $4/hr wasn't acceptable they'd have trouble hiring anyone. We in the U.S. have the option of not buying the Mexican truck, too, if source is an important criteria to you.
     
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    The problem to me is we believe that the illusion of wealth, buying lots of crap to fill McMansions, is the goal. We didn't get to this point overnight and returning to having quality things made locally won't either.
     
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    You're describing capitalism. Consumer culture will never go back to how things were pre-industrialization, for literally too many reasons to list. I was only pointing out the hypocrisy of the blame game, not saying how things should or shouldn't be. I try not to wear rose colored glasses, I mean I bought a Taco too...
     
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    Nor do I think they should. Capitalism is both the credit and blame for our modern world. I think the profit motive and desire to have more for less on balance is positive and I'm certainly in favor of it over other '-ism' that might occur.

    There's no rational reason we should want to pay more for something than we need to. Just because it's made in America doesn't guarantee it's better. In fact the American worker in the face of cheaper labor should feel the need to work to justify the value. That might be better quality but could be quicker, more flexible, better customer service. I dunno. But to the consumer what tangible benefit does having a 'Made In USA' mean?

    But I also think we as consumers and producers should buy with a full understanding of costs. We aren't getting something for nothing with globalized labor when the trade imbalance is actually paid for by exporting our inflation for their products. It will eventually have to end and we'll be left with no infrastructure or ability to make anything. I mean, none of this boils down to a one sentence solution.
     
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    True for the time being, but as manufacturing moves to almost entirely automated I think we will see manufacturing return to America. No point in having your factory in some 3rd world country with unreliable utilities if robots are building your stuff anyway. The next few decades will be a very interesting point in history.
     
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    Many people on this forum have previously stated that the Toyota workers at the Mexico plant are compensated VERY well, to the tune of several times what the average salary is for that area. And because of this great pay the plant is able to employ the best of the best....just what I've heard.

    I've been keeping mental track on this here forum and it sure seems like Texas tacos have just as many problems as Mexican tacos. FWIW
     
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    There won't be an issue with quality. Corporations, especially large ones with the reputation of Toyota, will over see quality control themselves to make sure they don't cut corners on production.

    Mexico is a second world and working to become a first world country. When a foreign company like Toyota invests in a plant they are helping them reach that goal and you're truck is assembled in a fully modern plant.

    And yes it is a cost saving measure and I can guarantee the line workers are not getting paid minimum wage just like the Texas workers are not. And so what if it's less than in the US. Your dollar goes a whole lot farther in Mexico.
     
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    That's because problems are more than likely going to be from the original equipment supplier which could be in any country or an engineering flaw, not something as relatively simple as assembly.
     
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    Toyota should be making Prius and Sienna's in Mexico not the Taco.
     
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